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Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?
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| 12-14-14
| ealgeone
Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not mans standard.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; blessedvirginmary; catholic; mary; mystery; mysterybabylon; prayer; rcinventions; vanities; vanity; worship
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To: Elsie
other than saying that you have something blessed by the Pope, you could be right......so? WOW! Cue the Hallelujah Chorus! don't strike up the band just yet...I said you COULD be right...a stopped clock is right twice a day.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:28:02 PM PST
by
terycarl
( common sense prevails over all)
To: editor-surveyor; Elsie
dead shall be raised incorruptible That is said of their bodies heretofore corrupt.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:29:00 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: ealgeone
The entire Catholic Church, here and in heaven is live people.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:29:42 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: Elsie
The one that you guys get every three years during Mass. Of course; if it's in LATIN...... you really should attend Mass more often if you're going to attempt to describe it. The Mass is said in whatever the local language is. In my church it is said in English and Spanish...we have a growing number of Hispanics in our parish.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:32:29 PM PST
by
terycarl
( common sense prevails over all)
To: Grateful2God
Thank you.
I deliberately started with the intention to build Christ’s Church, leaving the issue of who the Rock is aside. The point is that think what you will about the papacy, this is a statement of the Church being the rule of faith, the body of people who “bind and loose”.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:32:56 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: Elsie
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:33:29 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: Elsie
Because that is what the Bible says or at least implies.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:34:47 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: Elsie
I somehow contradicted the existence of the Book of Life?
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:35:26 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: JPX2011
In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?, JPX2011 wrote:
I mean Blessed Mother Teresa who gave her life for the poor of Calcutta who saw the face of Christ in all she encountered. We could all learn something from her.
I don't believe, although I am Catholic, which I believe has the greatest deposit of the truth, has exclusive rights to Salvation! God has incomprehensible love: He is Love! And when we show kindness, charity, compassion for one another, we are showing it to Him! Jesus Himself said the last part!
Amen, and God bless you!
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:36:12 PM PST
by
Grateful2God
(preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
To: Elsie
SOMEone needs to brush up on their FR101 lessons! when I don't understand something, I ask someone who does, unlike those who expound on a religion that they seem to know nothing about.....just saying
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:39:20 PM PST
by
terycarl
( common sense prevails over all)
To: metmom; MamaB
Call no man *Father*.
Do not eat the blood. Neither is a fundamental prohibition that you think it is. St. Paul called people "father". The Church can change things she proclaims about daily practices, like what to eat and what not to eat.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:39:23 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: metmom
nothing in the term *God* that gives anyone any reason to think *Trinity*. That is correct. But when we insist on Mary being the Mother of God when she gave birth to Jesus alone is a succinct statement of the nature of the Trinity, from which Christ cannot be separated.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:41:21 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: aMorePerfectUnion
not the plain meaning of the passage LOL. There you go again.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:42:03 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: PeterPrinciple
See, for example, my post directly below yours, 2222
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:42:52 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: terycarl
I don’t know how many turns of this you want to do. It has been admitted by Roman Catholics on this thread that they indeed offer prayers up to departed saints and Mary.
By you taking a prayer request is not the same as me offering YOU a prayer. There’s the difference.
I also asked for an example of OT or NT people praying to entities other than God. No one piped up on that because all the instances are negative and involve prayers to other gods and not God.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:44:03 PM PST
by
redleghunter
(... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
To: MamaB
The Bibe does not say except for Mary True, but does it say that Mary's feet are quick to shed blood? That your pastor does not seek God? That venom of asps is on your lips?
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:45:08 PM PST
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: annalex
Here’s an example for you...
Christ said He “is the door.”
Will you argue the plain meaning of the words is the meaning of the statement?
If not, what is the meaning? How do you know?
If you say yes, please explain why you believe Christ is a literal door.
Best.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:47:56 PM PST
by
aMorePerfectUnion
( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
To: annalex; EagleOne
>>The real problem is that Protestantism starts from a number of counter-scriptural assumptions<<
As in???
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:53:42 PM PST
by
redleghunter
(... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
To: annalex
Romans 4:5-8 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.
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posted on
12/19/2014 7:57:39 PM PST
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: editor-surveyor
>> The Eucharist isnt even MENTIONED in the LETTER! << . Then it must be one of those things that Moses preached? Somehow these poor fools have to learn how to get their salvation inoculation! the Eucharist is perfectly described in the LETTER, instituted by Christ, and named Eucharist by the Christians
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posted on
12/19/2014 8:01:24 PM PST
by
terycarl
( common sense prevails over all)
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