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To: NYer

How about a few more wrenches thrown in the picture that will most certainly arouse flames from all directions?

The Jews did not celebrate birthdays! And considered it a practice of other religions/societies. Only two birthdays are noted in the Bible - perhaps three:

1. Pharoah’s birthday, Genesis 40:20.
2. Herod’s birthday, Matt. 14:6, Mark 6:21
3. Job’s son’s birthday, Job 1:4. Only a possibility, not certain. As the word “birthday” is used in Genesis, if it was a birthday in Job, one would think the word would be found here as well. Job is thought to have preceeded Abraham, thus being pre-Jewish.

On each of these occasions, someone died. In Job, it was all his children but only IF vs. 1:13 was the same day as 1:4, which is not provable.

But here’s the big wrench:

The early Christians not only did not celebrate Christ’s birth, they didn’t celebrate anyone’s birth, as their early heritage was heavily influenced by Judaism. For at least the first century, celebrating Christ’s birth was considered heresy. Many think the date wasn’t celebrated as Christ’s birthday by Christianity until sometime in the 300’s.

Flame away friends........


39 posted on 12/11/2014 2:58:39 PM PST by Arlis
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To: Arlis

Thanks! I was not aware of that.


40 posted on 12/11/2014 2:59:50 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Arlis

It takes a few days for payments to settle before the end of the year.

Creating a holiday that links so well to New Year day, it is a natural. Shut it down, let the year end trades settle. Call it a year.

Judaism indicates their genius once again.


42 posted on 12/11/2014 3:02:11 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Arlis; trisham
Luke 1 tells us when John was conceived and that Jesus was conceived 6 months later.

So we have a good idea of when they were born.

46 posted on 12/11/2014 3:08:53 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Arlis

Source please.....support your statement if you are going to make it.


72 posted on 12/11/2014 3:55:42 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Arlis

Otherwise, it’s just your opinion, correct?


74 posted on 12/11/2014 3:56:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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