Posted on 12/11/2014 2:01:01 PM PST by NYer
Tax time was the feast of Sukkot, when all were required to “come up” to Jerusalem.
(that is why Rome picked it for tax time)
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The “mouth breathers” are those that take the foolishness of men over the infallible word of God.
The catholic church worships creatures, Yehova’s rest is for those that worship his son.
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But you certainly took the time to post your opinion. If this is a topic that does not interest you, why bother telling us.
And if you didn’t like paying your taxes, you were told to “Sukkot”...
When posting a statement, please support it with a link to an authoritative source.
Oliver Cromwell, is that you?
I thought they put your head on a pike after they posthumously executed you for regicide!
What a hoot!
Apparently it mattered to both of you because you took the time to post your comment.
Does it really matter when Yeshua was born? Why does having to celebrate His birth on a particular date effect my salvation with Him? I celebrate His birth, death and resurrection everyday.
>> “There is no mention in this article about the adoption of the Julian calendar or the later change to the Gregorian calendar.” <<
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Those are the foolish works of men.
Yehova’s days are from sunset to sunset, and his years begin with the new moon that comes at the time of the Aviv barley.
This is obviously not a date that can be fixed in advance, and must be observed on his holy mount Moriyah in Jerusalem each year.
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Basically it was a reply to the post wherein all this evidence of the day/date was important enough to someone to put it up. I was just responding to it.
Probably most likely in April of our calendar, considering history, tax time, etc. Who really cares when He was born; what matters is that He was born.
What makes me nuts is all the Wise Man stuff in the whole Christmas fanfare. It would’ve taken them about two years to make the trip. Herod’s decree had a two-year window for ages of kids to be killed. Matthew 2:11: “And when they were come into the HOUSE (not manger), they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him”
But if parents like to see their little kids in church Christmas programs dressed up like wise men... whatever.
If so, this would put the birth about October 13th, give or take a couple of weeks due to the calendar changes.
He was born and that's all I care about, and I celebrate that everyday.
FMCDH(BITS)
October 13 is the next to my birthday.
I have always had a martyr complex. I guess it’s really a Christ complex.
That is an officious statement that cannot be supported. It is offensive and I respectfully request an apology to ALL Catholics in the forum.
I'm interested in religion, and in logical argumentation.
I couldn't believe he was actually going to go through with a formal logical defense, but I was wrong.
BTW - All Cats' Birthday is May 18, but I'm not going to submit a logical defense. I'll just take it on faith...
Did you read the article? There seems to be quite a case to be made for that being the actual day. Is all of it just bunk?
Even if someone has doctrinal differences with Catholicism, they ought to have the decency to recognize that the Catholic church was the sole custodian of Christian tradition from the time of Emperor Constantine until the Reformation, a period of more than 1000 years.
It was Catholic armies at the Gates of Vienna and Catholic navies at Lepanto which beat back the Muslim hordes while the Calvinists were busy consolidating their political power in Switzerland, not to mention the Crusades dating back much earlier.
The rest of us at least owe the Catholics respect and a little gratitude for that.
How about a few more wrenches thrown in the picture that will most certainly arouse flames from all directions?
The Jews did not celebrate birthdays! And considered it a practice of other religions/societies. Only two birthdays are noted in the Bible - perhaps three:
1. Pharoah’s birthday, Genesis 40:20.
2. Herod’s birthday, Matt. 14:6, Mark 6:21
3. Job’s son’s birthday, Job 1:4. Only a possibility, not certain. As the word “birthday” is used in Genesis, if it was a birthday in Job, one would think the word would be found here as well. Job is thought to have preceeded Abraham, thus being pre-Jewish.
On each of these occasions, someone died. In Job, it was all his children but only IF vs. 1:13 was the same day as 1:4, which is not provable.
But here’s the big wrench:
The early Christians not only did not celebrate Christ’s birth, they didn’t celebrate anyone’s birth, as their early heritage was heavily influenced by Judaism. For at least the first century, celebrating Christ’s birth was considered heresy. Many think the date wasn’t celebrated as Christ’s birthday by Christianity until sometime in the 300’s.
Flame away friends........
Thanks! I was not aware of that.
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