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To: boatbums

Excellent point. Also, as to created beings, notice the angels when they appeared, ALWAYS told those to whom they appeared NOT to pray to them or bow to them. ALWAYS. Why? Because they are creatures, not the Creator.

On this line of thought, if there are “proper designated dead creatures” to whom live creatures ARE allowed to pray, I assume only the Catholic Church can designate the dead creature? From where does more authority derive to keep adding names to the roll?

Firstly, as this definitively NOT found in the Scripture, and doing so is in direct contradiction to the Scripture and the 2nd Commandment of God, where does the Catholic Church get its authority?

What about what Christ said, “a house divided cannot stand”? If God says one thing and a church doctrine says the opposite, that is a divided house....and says a great deal about the church and the people who swear allegiance to its doctrines over God’s Word.

As I know you are aware, this doctrine of praying to Mary and the dead in Christ contravenes the Fathers will, invalidates Christ, contradicts what the Apostles teach, and cancels out God’s warnings on this subject as given through the prophets.


2,252 posted on 12/16/2014 3:55:27 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Excellent point. Also, as to created beings, notice the angels when they appeared, ALWAYS told those to whom they appeared NOT to pray to them or bow to them. ALWAYS. ...

No, not always And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

Then the Lord opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.

And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant? And the captain of the Lord's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.

And David lifted up his eyes, and saw the angel of the Lord stand between the earth and the heaven, having a drawn sword in his hand stretched out over Jerusalem. Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces.

2,261 posted on 12/16/2014 5:22:41 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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