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To: CynicalBear

I kinda knew they prayed to Mary from coming across a few tv shows but never dreamed it was this bad. Why don’t they go to the source, Jesus? Mary is dead.


1,286 posted on 12/13/2014 11:25:18 AM PST by MamaB
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To: MamaB
>>Why don’t they go to the source, Jesus?<<

Because the enemy would have them take their focus off of Jesus and put it on the pagan concept of "queen of heaven".

1,299 posted on 12/13/2014 1:29:25 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: MamaB
I kinda knew they prayed to Mary from coming across a few tv shows but never dreamed it was this bad.

If the FR Catholics were not so darned PUSHY; all this information would have stayed below the radar.

We'll get blamed for not understanding it.

They are RIGHT!

I do NOT understand how they could FALL FOR IT!

1,363 posted on 12/13/2014 2:57:05 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MamaB; CynicalBear; metmom
I kinda knew they prayed to Mary from coming across a few tv shows but never dreamed it was this bad. Why don’t they go to the source, Jesus? Mary is dead.

Because some of their "leaders" started thinking that, since Jesus was a good Jewish boy, he HAD to do whatever his mother asked him. So, they figured if they went to Mary, rather than to Jesus - who they imagined was a stern judge and much too busy with running the universe that he couldn't be bothered with the mundane lives of individuals - their requests would have a better chance of being granted.

From Ludwig Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma Chapter 3, “Mary’s Co-operation in the Work of Redemption—the Mediatorship of Mary”, we read that Mary’s obedience qualified her to dispense grace and become the cause of salvation:

    Mary gave the Redeemer, the Source of all graces, to the world, and in this way she is the channel of all graces. Since Mary’s Assumption into Heaven no grace is conferred on man without her actual intercessory cooperation.... Mary freely and deliberately co-operated in giving the Redeemer to the world.... The Incarnation of the Son of God, and the Redemption of mankind by the vicarious atonement of Christ were dependent on her assent.... Mary by her obedience became the cause of our Salvation....

In S. T. Louis De Montfort, The Secret of the Rosary, Mary Barbour translator (Bay Shore, NY: Montfort Publications, 1976), p. 84, We read that Mary claimed in an apparition:

    Just as Almighty God chose the Angelic Salutation to bring about the Incarnation of His Word and the Redemption of mankind, in the same way those who want to bring about moral reforms and to want people reborn in Jesus Christ must honor me and greet me with the same salutation. I am the channel by which God came to men, and so, next to my Son Jesus Christ, it is through me that men must obtain grace and virtue.

From these and many, many other writings from the Roman Catholic church we can see that they have gone WAY beyond what was written and, whether they admit it or not, they have exalted Mary to be equal, if not superior to, Jesus Christ. It truly is bad.

1,397 posted on 12/13/2014 3:24:24 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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