[Mrs. Don-o]

"Sinners need grace. Anyone without sin doesn't... If Mary had no sin, then she didn't need grace."

I can't make heads or tails of this statement.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Jesus is described as being "full of grace", but He was not a sinner. So on that account, your definition makes no sense.

Sanctifying grace is a sharing in the very life of God. It is a supernatural state of being able to bask in the lovingkindness of God, imbibe His friendship and share in His very nature, "partakers" in the divine nature, as Peter says (2 Peter 1:4.)

In the Garden of Eden Adam and Eve were created in a state of grace, which is to say, they were created in the Image and Likeness of God; they spoke with God; they had a relationship of love with God.

They were in Original Grace. They didn't have to have sin first, and then get grace!

[ealgeone]

The Bible notes Jesus is the only sinless person. All else have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Including Mary.

. You continue to parrot the wrong translation of Luke 1:28. Why?

[metmom]

Jesus GIVES the grace.

Mary was graced, given grace.

Therefore she’s a sinner.