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Apologists Concerned About Rick Warren's Alignment With 'Holy Father'
Charisma News ^
| 12/3/14
| Mark Andrews
Posted on 12/10/2014 6:32:20 AM PST by marshmallow
"Christian unity" is one of those terms that stir up a whole spectrum of—sometimes emotional—opinions.
On the one hand, we know that Jesus prayed to the Father concerning future believers "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you" (John 17:21a, NIV).
On the other hand, charismatics know it is almost pointless to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12, 14) with Baptists or most anyone else from a mainline denomination. And Protestants of just about any stripe get riled up when they hear Catholics talking about papal infallibility or their adoration of the Virgin Mary.
It's on this latter point that Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and successful author, has waded into a hornet's nest of controversy by telling a Catholic News Service interviewer that Protestants and Catholics "have far more in common than what divides us" and that Catholics do not "worship Mary like she's another god."
Regarding Warren's view that Catholics do not worship Mary, Matt Slick, writing on the website of the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, goes into great detail with material from Roman Catholic sources that say Mary is "the all holy one," is to be prayed to, worshipped, that she "brings us the gifts of eternal life" and she "made atonement for the sins of man."
If that's not putting her in the place of Christ as a god-like figure to be worshipped, then what is it?
"We believe in Trinity, the Bible, the resurrection, and that salvation is through Jesus Christ. These are the big issues," Warren says. "But the most important thing is if you love Jesus, we're on the same team."
To Warren's point about being on the same team, Slick.....
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To: terycarl
By the way, a modern laptop could handle that load and have time for a few games of Free Cell to boot... That's your best answer?
That Mary is BETTER than a LAPTOP??
Strange religion you got there!
941
posted on
12/12/2014 5:40:34 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Arthur McGowan
Well; you seem to KNOW the rules...
942
posted on
12/12/2014 5:41:06 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Resettozero
I think LC is asleep right now. More likely I was pursuing...
943
posted on
12/12/2014 5:42:09 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: terycarl
....I knew I could count on your inability to come up with some fresh insults toward Catholicism!!!! At least you DO recognize that History has recorded the insults that your old popes caused the church to bear thru the ages.
944
posted on
12/12/2014 5:43:36 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: terycarl
945
posted on
12/12/2014 5:43:50 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: JPX2011
Marian doctrines...Mary centered...hence the name Marian doctrines..... Please be kind enough and share with the rest of the protestant contingent
You're getting it now.
946
posted on
12/12/2014 5:45:10 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Arthur McGowan
My argument is that the absence of any CLAIMED relics of Mary is proof that
everyone BELIEVED that relics of Mary were IMPOSSIBLE.
947
posted on
12/12/2014 5:46:48 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: metmom
I shudder for the future of Catholics when I read that.
Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.
Giving what belongs to God to Mary is not going to turn out well for Catholics.
948
posted on
12/12/2014 5:47:37 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: Resettozero
949
posted on
12/12/2014 5:51:46 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: daniel1212; vladimir998
Which is what that the quote was prefaced as saying -while yet seeking to support Peter as the rock - but which you ignored as well as the link by which anyone could read it, but which link seemed to be hiding from you!
#352
950
posted on
12/12/2014 5:53:45 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: ealgeone
you really wonder why the mod zings you all the time???It's because the M-D is ANTI-CATHOLIC!!!
951
posted on
12/12/2014 5:57:19 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
Loved the shows with Q in them. Some of the better written episodes.
To: vladimir998
I have told you repeatedly that I don’t wear a ring. I have shown you where the the brides attendants are spoken of in scripture as well and the grooms attendants.
953
posted on
12/12/2014 5:58:46 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: ealgeone
It's because the M-D is ANTI-CATHOLIC!!!Sorry, little man.
I'm ANTI-human!
954
posted on
12/12/2014 5:59:01 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: af_vet_1981
I'm content to see you take a step towards believing the teaching of the Catholic Church,
#352
955
posted on
12/12/2014 5:59:46 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: vladimir998
I can always leave the pool, but if I do then there’s no one to pull you out of the drain.How are the BABY RUTHs today?
956
posted on
12/12/2014 6:00:53 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: terycarl
...that's what He told us to do... Galatians 5:12
957
posted on
12/12/2014 6:01:43 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Arthur McGowan
958
posted on
12/12/2014 6:02:23 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: terycarl
you must be a democrat....when you run out of things to say you resort to spelling or errors in context to berate your adversaries....nice!!!!! you must be a Catholic....when you run out of things to say you resort to spelling or errors in context to berate your adversaries....nice!!!!!
959
posted on
12/12/2014 6:03:08 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Heart-Rest
Well; you've got the BLESSED part down pretty well.
Now let's see if you can find all of the OTHER adjectives that your chosen religion uses to describe Mary in the bible.
960
posted on
12/12/2014 6:04:34 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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