Do Catholics bow down to them? Yes they do.
Posted on 12/10/2014 6:32:20 AM PST by marshmallow
"Christian unity" is one of those terms that stir up a whole spectrum of—sometimes emotional—opinions.
On the one hand, we know that Jesus prayed to the Father concerning future believers "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you" (John 17:21a, NIV).
On the other hand, charismatics know it is almost pointless to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12, 14) with Baptists or most anyone else from a mainline denomination. And Protestants of just about any stripe get riled up when they hear Catholics talking about papal infallibility or their adoration of the Virgin Mary.
It's on this latter point that Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and successful author, has waded into a hornet's nest of controversy by telling a Catholic News Service interviewer that Protestants and Catholics "have far more in common than what divides us" and that Catholics do not "worship Mary like she's another god."
Regarding Warren's view that Catholics do not worship Mary, Matt Slick, writing on the website of the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, goes into great detail with material from Roman Catholic sources that say Mary is "the all holy one," is to be prayed to, worshipped, that she "brings us the gifts of eternal life" and she "made atonement for the sins of man."
If that's not putting her in the place of Christ as a god-like figure to be worshipped, then what is it?
"We believe in Trinity, the Bible, the resurrection, and that salvation is through Jesus Christ. These are the big issues," Warren says. "But the most important thing is if you love Jesus, we're on the same team."
To Warren's point about being on the same team, Slick.....
(Excerpt) Read more at charismanews.com ...
Let US create man in OUR image...
Who do Catholics think GOD the Father is talking to here?
John 1:3
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Colossians 1:16 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and in him.
Hey!
I just posted them!
I said NOTHING about them.
If??
Grab a chunk of text and Google® it.
You'll see just WHERE it comes from...
https://www.google.com/search?q=mary+prayers+and+meditations&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gws_rd=ssl
Oh??
I'm confused then...
Let's try some easy math:
There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;
If merely 1% of them 'ask' Mary for help just once each day;
that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.
Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)
...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!
Purty good fer someone NOT 'endowed with special powers'!
Telling another person what an organization “REALLY” thinks, teaches and believes is NOT normal courtroom procedure unless there is some EVIDENCE presented along with any accusations made.
Now THIS is a claim.
But where (to paraphrase Clara) is the EVIDENCE?
I didn’t say Catholics don’t refer to her as both.
I was addressing the titles and the meaning they convey.
And here is another claim...
(A crazy one I might add.)
The Sun revolves around the Earth.
Tell your fellow Catholics.
They seem to have lost the memo.
Thanks for the humor break; as we are getting WAY to serious here!
Let me help:
It's hard for a mere human to actually do such a thing.
Can you or your re-chosen religion explain it?
Honestly, I’ve never heard these prayers you and the other protestants are posting.
Again; let me help...
You need to trade in your see-eye dog!
Jesus was walking along one day, when He came upon a group of people surrounding a lady of ill repute. It was obvious that the crowd was preparing to stone her, so Jesus made His now-famous statement, "Let the person who has no sin cast the first stone."
The crowd was shamed and one by one began to turn away. All of a sudden, a lovely little woman made her way through the crowd. Finally getting to the front, she tossed a pebble towards the woman.
Jesus looks over and says, "I really hate it when you do that, Mom."
Yeah.
The
of your leaders had NOTHING to do with it.
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Oh you poor man!
How DO you stand up under the strain?
You'll NOT find the info on MY homepage.
Catholics do not require proof that a teaching is Biblical.
Protestants do.
The bible (which the Catholic church compiled) contains these words:
Acts 17:11 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
Now these were more noble than those in Thessalonica, who received the word with all eagerness, daily searching the scriptures, whether these things were so.
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