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Apologists Concerned About Rick Warren's Alignment With 'Holy Father'
Charisma News ^
| 12/3/14
| Mark Andrews
Posted on 12/10/2014 6:32:20 AM PST by marshmallow
"Christian unity" is one of those terms that stir up a whole spectrum of—sometimes emotional—opinions.
On the one hand, we know that Jesus prayed to the Father concerning future believers "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you" (John 17:21a, NIV).
On the other hand, charismatics know it is almost pointless to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12, 14) with Baptists or most anyone else from a mainline denomination. And Protestants of just about any stripe get riled up when they hear Catholics talking about papal infallibility or their adoration of the Virgin Mary.
It's on this latter point that Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and successful author, has waded into a hornet's nest of controversy by telling a Catholic News Service interviewer that Protestants and Catholics "have far more in common than what divides us" and that Catholics do not "worship Mary like she's another god."
Regarding Warren's view that Catholics do not worship Mary, Matt Slick, writing on the website of the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, goes into great detail with material from Roman Catholic sources that say Mary is "the all holy one," is to be prayed to, worshipped, that she "brings us the gifts of eternal life" and she "made atonement for the sins of man."
If that's not putting her in the place of Christ as a god-like figure to be worshipped, then what is it?
"We believe in Trinity, the Bible, the resurrection, and that salvation is through Jesus Christ. These are the big issues," Warren says. "But the most important thing is if you love Jesus, we're on the same team."
To Warren's point about being on the same team, Slick.....
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Comment #1,641 Removed by Moderator
To: Syncro
And up pops the cult of if-you-are-not-a-catholic-you-are-a-protestant.And up pops the cult of if-you-are-not-a-catholic-you-going-to-hell.
1,642
posted on
12/14/2014 3:34:32 AM PST
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: Resettozero
The past is a pretty good indicator of the future.
1,643
posted on
12/14/2014 3:35:56 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Comment #1,647 Removed by Moderator
To: Syncro
Some don’t take correction well.While...
...some have no need for correction at all.
1,648
posted on
12/14/2014 3:46:13 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mrs. Don-o
I now smell like a spice cake.Is that better than elderberries??
1,649
posted on
12/14/2014 3:47:11 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Alex Murphy
The multiplicity of theological positions present within the Catholic Church.
1,650
posted on
12/14/2014 3:47:46 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: vladimir998
I am not foolish enough to believe evidence will convince you.You appear adequate to me!
1,651
posted on
12/14/2014 3:48:57 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: vladimir998
...Taking things as they are...
#352
1,652
posted on
12/14/2014 3:49:53 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: terycarl
see how self interpretation can lead to questionable conclusions??? 
1,653
posted on
12/14/2014 3:52:11 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: metmom
Heh, the Twilight Zone is nothing compared to this thread. 
1,654
posted on
12/14/2014 3:54:15 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: metmom; narses
Oh Sleeper!
AWAKE!!!
It's narses Appreciation Day!
1,655
posted on
12/14/2014 3:57:06 AM PST
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Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Religion Moderator
I was wondering why all the missing replies when I checked back in this morning.
1,656
posted on
12/14/2014 3:58:11 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: terycarl
oh good, a copy of Elsies naughty pope list...Sorry; but it's ROME's list!
You guys got any RELICS from them hangin' around gathering dust?
1,657
posted on
12/14/2014 4:00:34 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: terycarl
oh good, a copy of Elsies naughty pope list...Sorry; but it's ROME's list!
You guys got any RELICS from them hangin' around gathering dust?
1,658
posted on
12/14/2014 4:01:25 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: JPX2011
1,659
posted on
12/14/2014 4:08:49 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: metmom
What the heck is the “Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction”? Two men considering a religious vocation were having a conversation. "What is similar about the Jesuit and Dominican Orders? " the one asked.
The second replied, "Well, they were both founded by Spaniards -- St. Dominic for the Dominicans, and St. Ignatius of Loyola for the Jesuits. They were also both founded to combat heresy -- the Dominicans to fight the Albigensians, and the Jesuits to fight the Protestants."
"What is different about the Jesuit and Dominican Orders?"
"Met any Albigensians lately?"
1,660
posted on
12/14/2014 4:12:36 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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