Posted on 12/10/2014 6:32:20 AM PST by marshmallow
"Christian unity" is one of those terms that stir up a whole spectrum of—sometimes emotional—opinions.
On the one hand, we know that Jesus prayed to the Father concerning future believers "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you" (John 17:21a, NIV).
On the other hand, charismatics know it is almost pointless to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12, 14) with Baptists or most anyone else from a mainline denomination. And Protestants of just about any stripe get riled up when they hear Catholics talking about papal infallibility or their adoration of the Virgin Mary.
It's on this latter point that Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and successful author, has waded into a hornet's nest of controversy by telling a Catholic News Service interviewer that Protestants and Catholics "have far more in common than what divides us" and that Catholics do not "worship Mary like she's another god."
Regarding Warren's view that Catholics do not worship Mary, Matt Slick, writing on the website of the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, goes into great detail with material from Roman Catholic sources that say Mary is "the all holy one," is to be prayed to, worshipped, that she "brings us the gifts of eternal life" and she "made atonement for the sins of man."
If that's not putting her in the place of Christ as a god-like figure to be worshipped, then what is it?
"We believe in Trinity, the Bible, the resurrection, and that salvation is through Jesus Christ. These are the big issues," Warren says. "But the most important thing is if you love Jesus, we're on the same team."
To Warren's point about being on the same team, Slick.....
(Excerpt) Read more at charismanews.com ...
(I think someone has something to confess at next confession)
I can not believe anyone believes the junk you just posted. It takes a really sick individual to even consider that worthy of posting. What is the matter with you? I am so thankful I am not catholic.
Perhaps he is preparing to submit a tentative script for Rosemary’s Baby VI.
Sounds like something from a vampire version of The Exorcist.
The very fact that you have responded proves that it is true.
Show me documentation that Catholic worship Mary.
Seek help.
Arthur, Arthur, Arthur.....it's been posted plenty of times. However you refuse to see it. We've offered the proof.
Now, for your outlandishly inane claim....as I said about the playground....
Put up or hush up.
Arthur.....there are lots of things we could say priests do......you really don’t want to play this game.
It’s not offensive or upsetting.
It’s ridiculous beyond measure.
Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
The fact that ANYONE could even conceive of something so bizarre reveals a lot about what is going on in his head and what is motivating him.
Not a nerve. My funny bone.
I have not seen much that's more ludicrous than your very feeble attempt at hyperbole.
Exodus 20:1-6 And God spoke all these words, saying,
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
“You shall have no other gods before me.
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Any former Catholic has seen people bowing down before carved images that adorn the Catholic church and there are images galore on the internet showing the same.
So Catholics then get into the semantics game and redefine *worship* with all kinds of terms. But that which we call a rose by any other name......
And that is always why Catholics never address the commandment of God about making the images or bowing down to them. They constantly focus on the *worship* part and deny it while ignoring the physical actions of making images and bowing down.
But God knew the human heart that it is just like that of a two year old. (You didn't say I could do THAT. I'm not REALLY worshiping, I'm just adoring.)
So I'm convinced that's why He didn't say *Don't worship them* but rather *Don't make images or likenesses and don't bow down to or serve them*.
We don’t even need to make stuff up about what priests do to children either........
“Well, since Mary bore JESUS, then she is not the mother of God.”
No. That would mean Jesus isn’t God. Since Mary bore Jesus, then she is the mother of God.
But you said that Jesus is God, leaving out mention of the Father and the Holy Spirit.
If you are going to equate Mary giving birth to God as meaning giving birth to Jesus, then you are effectively claiming that Jesus alone is God.
Not only have you sided with a fellow FRoman catholic, you’ve also placed yourself on his same level of credibility any further.
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