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Christianity must not trade it's birthright for a bowl full of temporary relevance.... Fr.Alexander Schmemann
1 posted on 12/09/2014 4:05:28 PM PST by bad company
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To: lightman

Ping!


2 posted on 12/09/2014 4:07:00 PM PST by bad company
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To: bad company

Complaining about magical thinking, in church. Funny.


3 posted on 12/09/2014 4:08:44 PM PST by mlo
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To: bad company

Just like St. Nicholas, we need to slap the heretics out of Orthodoxy.


4 posted on 12/09/2014 4:13:00 PM PST by toothfairy86
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To: bad company

I could never be an Orthodox or a Catholic. I don’t have a good enough attorney. Their explanations of everything read like the legal briefs in a securities fraud derivatives industry lawsuit.

Funny how Jesus wasn’t that complex.


5 posted on 12/09/2014 4:18:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bad company

If it ordinates women, it is not Orthodox. For similar reasons that, if it can breathe underwater, it’s not a raccoon.


9 posted on 12/09/2014 4:40:10 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: bad company

The author is a convert priest from Anglicanism. They are an odd bunch, so many of these convert priests. They carry terrible baggage into Orthodoxy with them. They know all the rules, or what they think are rules, but sadly and even after many years, never come to understand Orthodoxy or our Orthodox phronema. It’s not magical thinking, it’s our mindset, our particular worldview.


10 posted on 12/09/2014 4:49:30 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: bad company

This priest seems not to understand the fundamental principle of the Orthodox church. “Conforming to whatever the canons of modernity demand” only means that those who do so are no longer Orthodox, and have ex-communicated themselves from the church. There is no schism, as a schism would require a different, defensible, interpretation of the theological tenets of the church. Instead, this is just some laity and even (former) priests removing themselves from Orthodoxy, no matter how much they claim to be “modernizing” it.


11 posted on 12/09/2014 6:34:43 PM PST by Doug Loss
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To: Kolokotronis; bad company
Article: It is undoubtedly true, however, that we are unlike our Protestant friends in one important respect: we define ourselves by the Fathers, and at least pay them lip service, even when we veer off in directions which cause them to spin in their patristic graves. We have to at least pretend we are faithful to the Fathers, even when we aren’t. (Part of the trick here is to denounce fidelity to the Fathers as “patristic fundamentalism”, or as a simplistic reading of the Fathers.)

Kolokotronis: The author is a convert priest from Anglicanism. They are an odd bunch, so many of these convert priests. They carry terrible baggage into Orthodoxy with them. They know all the rules, or what they think are rules, but sadly and even after many years, never come to understand Orthodoxy or our Orthodox phronema. It’s not magical thinking, it’s our mindset, our particular worldview.

[sarcasm]The heretic! Interpreting the church fathers "literally" when the ordinary laymen of the world know that they were just espousing the mistaken science of their time!

This idiot should never have been allowed to convert. He may not even believe in evolution! He must be excommunicated!!![/sarcasm]

26 posted on 12/10/2014 9:01:42 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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