Surely the Sacred Scripture says so someplace?
"empty phrases", "babbling", "meaningless repetitions", "saying meaningless things"
Very well; so where are any of these things in the Prayer to St. Michael?
Do you have any examples where Jesus, in teaching His followers about prayer, says they should, or could, pray to anyone BUT God? No, you don't.
But the prayer in question while addressing Archangel Michael calls to the powers of God twice. It is a prayer about something God would do through St,. Michael. It is a prayer to God as well as to St. Michael.
Here it is again:
Prayer to St. Michael the ArchangelSt. Michael the archangel defend us in battle |
How in any sense does having a conversation with a being standing right in front of you translate into an okay to pray TO them? You going to try to pass on the idiotic rationalization that "pray" simply means "ask"? Sorry, praying to someone is presuming they can hear us.
Archangel Gabriel could hear Mary. The saints have abilities above human abilities (1 Cor. 13:12). Stop this atheistic garbage.
As you continue conversation here with whomever --- do not ping me to your own replies.
Reply to those persons. Not to me.
Surely the Sacred Scripture says so someplace?
In many, many places we are told the Scriptures are our rule of faith, our standard for truth. Look up all the times Scripture refers to "it is written" - Jesus did so dozens of times - to affirm the authority of God's word. Here, Elsie did it for us. Look up all the times God directed his prophets to WRITE what he told them to write and to see that the people obeyed it all, to write His statutes upon their hearts, to meditate on them, to let them lead their paths, light their way. Look up the many times the Apostles in their epistles taught believers to obey the instructions given to them and to hold to the doctrines they taught. Scripture says that the rule of faith IS what Scripture says it is and was why the early leaders of the Christian communities relied upon the Scriptures to back up their arguments for what was truth.
Very well; so where are any of these things in the Prayer to St. Michael?
I'm sure the "prayers" the pagans recited had words, too. It isn't the words Jesus is speaking about but the repetition of them to a point that the words lost meaning and turned into empty vain babblings. I used to be a Roman Catholic, I've said the rosary many times. There are 153 "Hail Mary" prayers in a fifteen decade rosary - many pagan religions also use prayer beads to keep track. Though I don't presume you have EVER fallen into it, no doubt many RCs say these repetitive prayers by rote and they can become nothing more than vain repetitions, too.
But the prayer in question while addressing Archangel Michael calls to the powers of God twice. It is a prayer about something God would do through St,. Michael. It is a prayer to God as well as to St. Michael. Archangel Gabriel could hear Mary. The saints have abilities above human abilities (1 Cor. 13:12). Stop this atheistic garbage.
How tedious you are being! If you are asking God to use the archangel Michael to do something for you, shouldn't you be praying TO God and not the angel??? God's the one who sends out His angels, you aren't. And the reason Mary could speak to Gabriel was because he was RIGHT THERE WITH HER! She could SEE him. We don't have ANYTHING from God that directs us to pray to angels or dead saints. Like I've repeated many times here already if you want to go ahead and do that, then do, just don't expect your name calling and bullying is going to change anyone's mind.
At what point in time??
The saints have abilities above human abilities (1 Cor. 13:12).
Let's see:
For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
Strange; I have FAILED to see any ABILITIES noted here.
However...
Let's try some easy math:
There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;
If merely 1% of them 'ask' Mary for help just once each day;
that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.
Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)
...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!
Purty good fer someone NOT 'divine'!