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Pope Francis: Church Support For Families With LGBT Children [Babylon the Great]
International Business Times ^ | 12/08/2014 | Lora Moftah

Posted on 12/09/2014 10:18:02 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski

The Catholic Church must help parents stand by their gay children, Pope Francis said in a new interview about his papal ministry. The pontiff’s comments come a day after Francis urged top church officials to pay attention to the “signs of the times” and listen to ordinary Catholics, according to The Independent.

“We come across this reality all the time in the confessional: a father and a mother whose son or daughter is in that situation. This happened to me several times in Buenos Aires.... We have to find a way to help that father or that mother to stand by their son or daughter,” he said in a wide-ranging interview with the Argentine daily La Nación. While it is important to find ways to welcome gay Catholics, gay marriage is still not on the church’s agenda, Francis said.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: celebratesin; cultureofcorruption; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; lgbt; pope; smashthepatriarchy; sodom
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To: GeronL
Is there any limit... I don’t think so.

Next time, instead of the black or white smoke after a vote, why not just make each Cardinal Pope of the Month. Good on the job training AND doing intern work might be good for them. You know, a little sweat on the brow as opposed to sweating for overindulging.
61 posted on 12/09/2014 1:07:27 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

No.


62 posted on 12/09/2014 1:16:07 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
No.

Okay. Just now learning late in life that being a pope is not a til-death-do-us-part kind of arrangment, as I had mistakenly thought before recent events and discussions on FR.
63 posted on 12/09/2014 1:21:03 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

With the post-Vatican II church truly anything is possible.


64 posted on 12/09/2014 2:14:06 PM PST by piusv
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To: Claud

” I think the electors are going to be much more keen next time to not elect a loose cannon. Just look how the Bishops were baffled by and ticked at the Synod.”

At the Synod, the majority of Bishops voted for the Francis view, just not the 2/3 required to adopt.


65 posted on 12/09/2014 2:55:32 PM PST by Fithal the Wise
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The internet transmits sarcasm poorly. I was quoting the esteemed Pope Francis in a facetious way.


66 posted on 12/09/2014 3:05:14 PM PST by BipolarBob
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To: SumProVita

Yes I would.


67 posted on 12/09/2014 3:22:20 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Resettozero

Pope of the Month Club


68 posted on 12/09/2014 4:02:06 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
Pope of the Month Club

We DON'T want you back.
69 posted on 12/09/2014 4:05:09 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

lol


70 posted on 12/09/2014 4:07:11 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
... after Francis urged top church officials to pay attention to the “signs of the times” and ...

The Church of What's Happenin' Now

71 posted on 12/09/2014 4:38:46 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Straight ahead, and don't bunch up.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Question for Dr. Phil Francis. When has the church never stood up for families with homosexual family members. And will you please quit using the PC term gay to when referring to homosexuals? It’s nauseating.


72 posted on 12/09/2014 8:14:21 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“My guess is that they misjudged Bergoglio’s stance on such issues or his ability to provide clear leadership”

Or the early stages of Alzheimer’s. By the way Francis can’t change Catholic doctrine. But he can ignore it and from there it floats downhill. That’s what Catholics need to be on the guard for.


73 posted on 12/09/2014 8:23:41 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: Arthur McGowan

He now seems to be putting people that got married by an Elvis impersonator or anyone else (outside the church) on the same footing with Catholics who were married in the church. He wants them to be able to receive communion, be godparents, teach sunday school, etc. Has there ever been a more loose cannon or another pope that has utter contempt for Catholic doctrine?

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1405095.htm

The pope answered several questions about the October 2014 Synod of Bishops on the family, which considered a controversial proposal to allow some divorced and civilly remarried Catholics to receive Communion even without an annulment of their first, sacramental marriages. By church law, such Catholics may not receive Communion unless they abstain from sexual relations, living as “brother and sister” with their new partners.

Regarding such Catholics, “we posed the question, what do we do with them? What door can be opened for them?” Pope Francis said. “Communion alone is no solution. The solution is integration.”

The pope noted several currently prohibited activities, including teaching Sunday school and distributing Communion, that he said amounted to the de facto excommunication of divorced and civilly remarried Catholics.

“Let us open the doors a bit more. Why can’t they be godfathers and godmothers?” Pope Francis said, dismissing the objection that they would set a poor example for the baptized.


74 posted on 12/09/2014 9:46:18 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: NKP_Vet

Just a note:

The annulment process is concerned only with discovering evidence of the invalidity of a marriage. The sacramentality of a given marriage is never the issue. All valid marriages between two baptized persons are sacramental.


75 posted on 12/09/2014 10:48:27 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: NKP_Vet

Those who have known and observed him for years say he is exactly as he always was as archbishop: says one thing in front of one audience, the opposite in front of another office. Totally inconsistent. An extreme extrovert, shallow, thoughtless, always wants to be liked.


76 posted on 12/09/2014 10:50:47 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: BipolarBob

When my kid has his finger up his nose, I tell him to cut it out because he might damage his nasal passage and get an infection. It’s a common tendency that good parents seek to help their children avoid. They don’t sit back and say, “Who am I to judge?” They counsel and help their children. I think you see the analogy, yes?


77 posted on 12/10/2014 6:20:04 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: MikeyB806

I suppose you know I was giving a famous Pope Francis quote?


78 posted on 12/10/2014 6:53:09 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

Yes, I do know that Pope Francis said “Who am I to Judge?” But “not judging” does not mean “accept;” it acknowledges that there are some things that we do not understand, but it does not relieve us from our responsibility to help people avoid bad behaviors, regardless of our understanding of what leads them to those behaviors.

I don’t judge my brother for his gambling addiction, but I do try to help him avoid gambling situations.


79 posted on 12/10/2014 10:17:07 AM PST by MikeyB806
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