Posted on 12/07/2014 4:30:17 AM PST by wheat_grinder
James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of our Fathers, 88th ed., pp. 89.
"But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify."
Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd ed., p. 174.
"Question: Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
"Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her-she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."
John Laux, A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies (1 936), vol. 1, P. 51.
"Some theologians have held that God likewise directly determined the Sunday as the day of worship in the New Law, that He Himself has explicitly substituted the Sunday for the Sabbath. But this theory is now entirely abandoned. It is now commonly held that God simply gave His Church the power to set aside whatever day or days she would deem suitable as Holy Days. The Church chose Sunday, the first day of the week, and in the course of time added other days as holy days."
Daniel Ferres, ed., Manual of Christian Doctrine (1916), p.67.
"Question: How prove you that the Church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
"Answer. By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of, and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same Church.'
James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore (1877-1921), in a signed letter.
"Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day -Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes . Did Christ change the day'? I answer no!
"Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons"
The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."
Catholic Virginian Oct. 3, 1947, p. 9, art. "To Tell You the Truth."
"For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the[Roman Catholic] church outside the Bible."
Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957), p. 50.
"Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
"Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Answer. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
The term “breaking bread” does not signify a Sabbath specifically.
The Bible uses the expression “breaking of bread” in different ways. First, Acts 2:42-46 describes the early church breaking bread as part of their fellowship: “And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers.” The early Christians came together regularly for common meals, which included the breaking of bread. Acts 2:44 refers to them having “everything in common,” and this no doubt included sharing meals together, each one receiving from the others what they needed. Verse 46 describes them breaking bread in their homes.
Answer from Paul (Romans):
"For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit (pneuma).”
The Apostles declares in Romans 2:25-29: “For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit (pneuma).”
Salvation is not about one's natural state, birthplace, birthday or parents. It is not about the physical act of circumcision - that is meaningless. It is about spiritual birth. It is about becoming a new creature through an inward work of circumcising the heart. What this is saying is that one's Jewishness (circumcision) means nothing if one isn’t saved, if one is saved then his Jewish upbringing has benefited him by somewhere bringing him into contact with the truth (Christ). I don't in any way believe this is talking about the physical act of circumcision but rather one's Jewishness. Jews were known as "the circumcision." This was a title that really denoted "Jew." We know it cannot be the act of circumcision as it avails nothing.
That is about the most convoluted description of 3 days and 3 nights I have ever heard.
Blessings
It is important to remember that our Savior was crucified as our Passover Lamb. Thus, each year it will be a different day of the week - Sunday being the anniversary of His rising only works every seventh year. During Jesus’ earthly ministry, He did not change the Sabbath to the first day of the week. Nor did He intend that the Sabbath be eliminated (the Ten Commandments were written in stone, many folks confuse the Ten with Mosaic Law). In fact when talking about the end times, He said “pray that your flight not be on the Sabbath”...So, He intended that we would keep the Sabbath until the end. I am not Hebrew or SDA.
You opined, “I cannot control what history has done to the Word but I can study and seek truth.” The real question left unaddressed is ‘do you believe God is able to manage His Word?’ Too many show that they do not believe that, as they accuse and reject according to what they perceive as ‘corruption in the Word.’ Jospeh Smith ran an enitre religious scam on that basis, a scam which continues even to this day!
Finally! Truth. Thanks for speaking plainly.
There is a difference between the Ten Commandments, written by God on stone and carried inside the Ark of the Covenant, and the Mosaic Law, scribed by Moses on parchment and carried outside of the Ark.
Circumcision is not in the Ten Commandments.
I do believe God is able to manage His word. I also believe through translation we miss out on some great revelations. Especially from Hebrew to English.
Saved me a lot of time. Thanks!
Also, for me, a day of worship and a day of “rest” are not the same, especially since EVERY day is a day of worship and Jesus is my rest.
Be it may..... however, the evidence for which day He rose is absolutely clarified in Scripture:
Matt. 28:1-2: “Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it.” The first day of the week is Sunday according to Judaism, according to the New Testament since Saturday is the 7th day.
Mark 16:1-4: “Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him. Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who will roll away the stone from the door of the tomb for us?” But when they looked up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away-- for it was very large.”
Luke 24:1: “Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.”
John 20:1 “On the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.”
Agreed and well said. Protestants choose to keep Sunday as the "Day of the Lord" to commemorate the day He arose, thus sealing our salvation. On the year in history when He arose, the day DID fall on Sunday, the first day of the week, thus we commemorate that day.
However, I will point out again what I said in post #5..... it is important to recognize that God has a claim to all of my time. When I give Him one day of the week, it reminds me that He owns all seven!
I love the way you say that, cuban leaf, for it is very true.
Jesus is a Jew, of the tribe of Judah, descended from King David. He kept God's Holy days. The so called last supper was a Passover. He went to the Tabernacle on the Sabbath as was his custom.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out — that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Sabbath breaking is the sin that caused the captivity of Israel, and Judah about 130 years later. Keeping the Sabbath is very important to God. The seventh day is the Sabbath.
In the Acts of the Apostles, observance of the Old Covenant sabbath was not one of the requirements enjoined on gentile Christians by the Council of Jerusalem with the words “It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us...”
The first day of the week (Sunday in English, but called Kyriake — the Lord’s Day — in Greek) is the commemoration of Our Lord’s Resurrection, to which the Synaxarion for Pascha informs us the Holy Apostles transferred the dignity of the sabbath. Of course, the last day of the week is still called Sabbaton in Greek, and like Sunday is a day when the Divine Liturgy may be served in the midst of Great Lent, when otherwise the Liturgy is not served, and also like Sunday has fasting lightened with a katalysis (for oil and wine, or for fish, oil and wine, depending on the fast) so the Old Covenant sabbath persists in a lighter form along with the observance of Sunday as the Lord’s Day, at least in the Christian East.
Source please.
I am not contending He did not arise on the first day of the week. Read thoroughly about the day of His crucifixion. Keeping in mind the feast days.
Also you state “Protestants choose to keep Sunday as the “Day of the Lord” to commemorate the day He arose”.
That’s pretty much what this conversation is about,when is Sabbath. The 4th commandment is God’s word about its time. “Protestants choosing” is someone else’s word about its time.
Gen. 2:3
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
The Catholic`s did not write the scripture and can not change it, they like every one else can only attempt to.
True they chose what we have in the new testament, but they could only include what was available.
The early gentile churches held services on Saturday night or Sunday, obviously in observance of the Sabbath, the day of rest.
It was several hundred years later that they actually started calling Sunday the Sabbath out of ignorance and arrogance.
God rested on the seventh day not the first day and called it the Sabbath, I do not think we can change history.
Exodus 31:15
Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Truth you speak.
Sources are listed with each quote.
Pentecost happened. That’s enough for me.
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