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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Ergo, unnecessary for salvation or maturity.”

So, God is wrapping up Creation, and He says (to Himself), “Let’s see. How many Graces are necessary at a bare minimum for salvation?”

And He bestows just these Graces on mankind.

But wait! Many still send themselves to Hell, even though those “necessary” Graces are available. What does He do now? He says, “Tough bananas. Other people made it to Heaven with just those Graces. They should have tried harder.”

Does that square with His desire that all should be saved?

Or does He give more Graces, above and beyond the merely “necessary,” that more should be saved? And given that He is outside of time, and omnipotent, would he wait to bestow “super-necessary” Graces, or would He give them to us in the beginning?

The notion that a Grace does not exist because it is (in some man’s eyes) not “necessary” for salvation, is of and from Satan.


277 posted on 12/08/2014 9:18:04 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
"So, God is wrapping up Creation, and He says (to Himself), “Let’s see. How many Graces are necessary at a bare minimum for salvation?” And He bestows just these Graces on mankind."

"The notion that a Grace does not exist because it is (in some man’s eyes) not “necessary” for salvation, is of and from Satan."

I utterly reject the unBiblical proposition your post contains. By arguing this way, your post minimizes what God has abundantly given. I can only hope your post was not thought out very well and is not a reflection of what you might believe.

I am astounded you would post this during Advent.

God has already provide His grace to redeem everyone on earth. They must respond. His Grace isn't "minimum." It is overflowing and abundant. He gave His Son. He paid for the sins of all mankind on the cross. He graciously gave the One thing that could yield salvation.

What your post describes as "graces" minimizes what God has accomplished on the cross when He said, "It is finished."

Even the Apostle Paul said, "Thank God for His indescribable gift!"

Yet, your post attempts to sneak some good old fashioned paganism into the equation and make the amazing gift of God seem parsimonious. Christ's sacrifice isn't the minimum. It is more than can ever be used up. God isn't stingy. His grace in Christ is overflowing.

Please rethink your non-Biblical assertions.

279 posted on 12/08/2014 9:29:47 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: dsc
The notion that a Grace does not exist because it is (in some man’s eyes) not “necessary” for salvation, is of and from Satan.

Who's stating that?

306 posted on 12/08/2014 12:28:03 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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