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To: Elsie

Jesus, Whose mother you so rudely spoke of, said:

“Judge not, lest ye be judged.”

Chastity according to one’s state in life, and continence in marriage are between the person (s) involved. I understand that these concepts are all but obsolete in popular culture. Not always so in ancient times: continence in marriage was also an offering made to God so that, when the period of continence was ended, a child could be born.
Jesus Christ is an important figure in secular, as well as religious history, and Mary and Joseph as His parent and guardians, respectively, even in the secular world must have been people of character.
Whether from a secular or religious point of view, they deserve more respect than your post gave them. So do the people of faith who regard Jesus as the Son of God and of Mary. Sarcasm and derision are not warranted, thank you.


247 posted on 12/07/2014 7:27:24 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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To: Grateful2God
Jesus, Whose mother you so rudely spoke of, said:

Mary was NOT a very good Christian for FAILING to be a COMPLETE wife to him.

Rude?

Your call.

Why do YOU judge it RUDE?

281 posted on 12/08/2014 9:36:11 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Grateful2God
“Judge not, lest ye be judged.”




Judge NOT???
 
Sigh............
 

 
Jesus has commanded us to judge!
 

“Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).


Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.


“But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us” (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

“And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother” (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

“Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself” (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

“Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple” (Romans 16:17,18).


All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep’s skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.


 “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.  (John 7:24).

282 posted on 12/08/2014 9:36:58 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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