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To: Arthur McGowan
Again, all you are citing is the OT. What about the NT, the Apostolic Fathers, and the sub-Apostolic Fathers?

Oh really?

You could not have possibly read the Scripture references then because you clearly missed this passage.....

Acts 15:12-29 And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,

“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things known from of old.’

Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter:

“The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

The HOLY SPIRIT HIMSELF reiterated the command against consuming blood.

Show us where in the NT the word *mass* is found.

Show us where the procedure for performing the mass is found.

Show us where priests are given to the church to perform sacrifices for believers.

If these things were all gross distortions of the teaching of Jesus, then his promise to remain with the Church and preserve the Church from error was shot to hell in two generations.

Show us where Jesus promised to preserve local assemblies from error. And show us where the church, those local assemblies, is the source of truth.

Error was starting to creep into the church from the very get go. Paul wrote plenty about it. It was happening while he was still alive.

So this claim of the RCC that it's free from error because Jesus promised to keep it that way is merely an attempt to put it's claims to inerrancy beyond dispute, no different than any shyster televangelist who claims that you can't argue with him because he claims God told him something and that if you disagree with him, you are disagreeing with God.

Bogus claims on both parts.

The HOLY SPIRIT is who guides people into truth, the truth found in SCRIPTURE that he breathed out, not the kind of self-proclaimed *truth* that the Catholic church tries to pass off in its attempts at power grabs.

112 posted on 11/30/2014 6:39:42 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.

If this prohibition on the drinking of blood prohibits the drinking of Christ's blood, then why does St. John (some decades later) put into the mouth of Jesus the command to drink his blood?

115 posted on 11/30/2014 9:00:39 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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