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To: vladimir998

If you believe that you don’t know the first thing about historic Protestantism. He’s not protesting anything because he agrees with the core free-will theology of Rome. Historic Protestants do not believe that theology. Protestants believe Rome is apostate whereas Rick believes Roman Catholicism is simply another expression of Christianity. Rick has vocally championed at least one book about “coming home” to Rome. The list of differences between Rick and historic Protestants is L O N G.


10 posted on 11/24/2014 7:45:57 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

“If you believe that you don’t know the first thing about historic Protestantism.”

The first thing to know about “historic Protestantism” is that it isn’t very historic.

“He’s not protesting anything because he agrees with the core free-will theology of Rome.”

Many Protestants believe in free-will. Being a Protestant who believes in free will does not make you unProtestant. It just makes you a particular kind of Protestant. These Protestants are just as undeniably Protestant as any other Protestant: http://nafwb.org/

“Historic Protestants do not believe that theology.”

Again, the first thing to know about “Historic Protestants” is that they aren’t very historic.

“Protestants believe Rome is apostate whereas Rick believes Roman Catholicism is simply another expression of Christianity.”

What Protestants believe about a city is immaterial. What Warren believes about “Roman Catholicism” is essentially immaterial as well.

“Rick has vocally championed at least one book about “coming home” to Rome.”

A number of Protestants have lauded Catholic books (such as Pope Benedict’s series on Jesus) so, again, that is immaterial.

“The list of differences between Rick and historic Protestants is L O N G.”

Again, the first thing to know about “historic Protestants” is that they aren’t very historic.

Warren is nothing other than a Protestant who upsets many other Protestants just like Joel Osteen does. At the same time, many other Protestants were disgusted by Jimmy Swaggart or Fred Phelps when he was alive and kicking. Protestants is an enormous spectrum of error. It should not surprise anyone that Protestants on one spectrum are offended or outraged by someone on another end of the spectrum. All that being said, however, it cannot be logically denied that Protestantism exists, covers a huge spectrum of error and that Rick Warren is a Protestant.


12 posted on 11/24/2014 8:14:25 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: .45 Long Colt

Well said, .45 Long Colt! I hate the Catholic/Protestant reduction of God’s precious gift of Jesus Christ, though. God IS...He is not an ISM.


15 posted on 11/24/2014 8:26:05 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: .45 Long Colt
If you believe that you don’t know the first thing about historic Protestantism.

So Rick is not a "historic" Protestant? Do you mean a "traditional" Protestant?

I thought you guys hated "tradition"! Don't tell me you have your own??

21 posted on 11/24/2014 8:58:44 AM PST by marshmallow
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