[Elsie]

I do not agree that this disgraceful behavior by a spiritually-dead hierarchy is somehow evidence of a “secret teaching” of the Church that abortion is hunky-dory.

Could you agree that there is 'evidence' that the OPEN teaching isn't very effective at the higher levels of the church?

[Arthur McGowan]

You still haven’t offered your explanation for the complete absence from history of any corpse or relic, or even any claimed corpse or relic, of Mary.

Despite the assiduousness with which early Christians preserved and venerated the bodies and relics of saints, they completely failed to do so in the case of Mary BECAUSE...(complete the sentence)