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Jesus Christ, Founder And Head Of His Catholic Church, With His Specially Chosen Assistants
(Music - "Twelve Apostles of Jesus Christ")
"And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Matthew 16:18)
A Special Prayer Of Jesus Christ That The Holy Spirit Wants All Of Us To Know About
"I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me." (John 17:20-23) ![]()
(Song -- "They'll Know We Are Christians")
"The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; those who dwelt in a land of deep darkness, on them has light shined." Isaiah 9:2
God's Catholic Church
The Light Of Truth Shining Through The Darkness
PROVE IT.
Jesus Himself didn't begin the Catholic church, men did and killed everyone who didn't believe and worship as they deemed fit at the time, or anyone who disagreed with the corruption then - as now.
Try reading a little of true Catholic history, then come by for a bit of a chat.
As a protestant, I won't bring up the subject of the First Commandment and the Catholic idol worship, nor will I discuss the praying to Mary for absolution and the insistence of anyone needing an intercessor or confessor but let's just agree to leave the discussion of how many denominations exist alone.
Smug and divisive.
Morning Consecration to Mary My Queen, My Mother, I offer myself entirely to thee. And to show my devotion to thee, I offer thee this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession. Amen.
Sorry Jesus. Maybe next time.
There is no “final biblical interpreter” for any true believer in Jesus. The text is the text and our job is to handle it carefully. Some do a good job at this, others not so good. But, clearly, the RC cult has done a poor job of it, skewing it to support all kinds of spurious doctrines. That brings the real believers in Jesus to reject Rome as false organization. And, incidentally, there was no such thing as the “Catholic Church” until about 320AD. Perhaps you would like to review your history.
That, and all the other such statements are fallacious, except in cults and in Rome, both which basically hold an individual as having assuredly veracity.
Likewise fallacious, is the premise that holding Scripture as supreme is unscriptural while holding the pope and church as supreme is, and produces an superior Scriptural unity.
And that holding Scripture as supreme as the accurate wholly inspired and supreme authority does not produce fruit of superior conservative unity than the fruit of the Roman model, as while Scripture does not change, leadership can, and to which the laity look for interpretation, and faith is shown by what we do.
And that the Roman model precludes the church being one in which there was an almost entire abandonment of equity in ecclesiastical judgments, and severely lacking discipline in morals, and erudition in sacred literature, and reverence in divine things, so that true religion was almost extinct, so that the true Church had to be sought outside the institution"
Is your argument is that an assuredly (if conditionally) infallible magisterium is essential for determination and assurance of Truth (including writings and men being of God) and to fulfill promises of Divine presence, providence of Truth, and preservation of faith, and authority?
And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that such is that assuredly infallible magisterium, dissent from which invalidates one form having authority?
Answer me.