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To: Elsie
The holy spirit is not a separate entity, but the power through which God does His works.
Again, read John 1:1-18 because it IS extremely clear.
Other than that, I have no idea as to what you are referring to.
I'm not well versed in Moronism.
109 posted on 11/19/2014 5:57:04 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
The holy spirit is not a separate entity, but the power through which God does His works.
Again, read John 1:1-18 because it IS extremely clear.
Other than that, I have no idea as to what you are referring to.
I'm not well versed in Moronism.

You're not very well versed in Scripture, either. You think you are but you are not because you have been influenced by false teachers. You say;

The holy spirit is not a separate entity, but the power through which God does His works.

You quote from John, but John applied the emphatic demonstrative masculine pronoun ekeinos to the Holy Spirit which would not be the case if the Holy Spirit were an impersonal force. John The Holy Spirit in Scripture is distinguished from the Father and Son and is also called "God" along with the Father and the Son. The Holy Spirit and is equated to YHWH by NT writers, who also ascribe to Him Personal attributes. He is called "another Comforter" by John, and the word 'another' allon - ἄλλον means ANOTHER OF LIKE KIND.

paraklētos

Thayer Definition:

1) summoned, called to one’s side, especially called to one’s aid

1a) one who pleads another’s cause before a judge, a pleader, counsel for defense, legal assistant, an advocate

1b) one who pleads another’s cause with one, an intercessor

1b1) of Christ in his exaltation at God’s right hand, pleading with God the Father for the pardon of our sins

1c) in the widest sense, a helper, succourer, aider, assistant

1c1) of the Holy Spirit destined to take the place of Christ with the apostles (after his ascension to the Father), to lead them to a deeper knowledge of the gospel truth, and give them divine strength needed to enable them to undergo trials and persecutions on behalf of the divine kingdom

Part of Speech: noun masculine

Jesus is also called the paraklētos and he will pray to the Father to send one of like kind. Jesus is a Person Who is also called παράκλητος - paraklētos. Therefore, to be of like kind, the Holy Spirit must also be a Person.

I suspect that because of your presuppositions none of these facts will make the slightest difference to you. Anyone who thinks that "...who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? " in 1 Corinthians 2:11 is referring to demonic sprits as stated in post #95 is so blinded and deafened by his own presuppositions that he cannot and/or will not see or listen to Scripture, the Word of God Himself, much less anything I say.

Cordially,

110 posted on 11/19/2014 7:17:39 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Yosemitest
The holy spirit is not a separate entity, but the power through which God does His works.

Izzat so?


I'm not well versed in Moronism. (sic)

That's ok; as you seem to had the JW position down pretty good.

111 posted on 11/19/2014 8:57:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Yosemitest
Again, read John 1:1-18 because it IS extremely clear.


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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made . 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe . 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born , not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried , saying , This was he of whom I spake , He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received , and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

112 posted on 11/19/2014 8:58:23 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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