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To: vladimir998
See post 56 regarding 'father'

Regarding the words 'Bible' and 'Trinity' those are descriptors of clearly defined concepts found in scripture.

The 'Pope' or 'Father' if you will, are discouraged by Jesus himself.

Does tradition trump Jesus?

58 posted on 11/11/2014 1:06:56 PM PST by JOAT
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To: JOAT

“See post 56 regarding ‘father’”

I did. First, it changes nothing because it is not a prohibition as Protestants now take it (generally, they’ve only claimed it as such in the last two or so centuries). Secondly, it is still in scripture, thus proving anyone who thinks ‘father’ (pope) is not in the Bible is in fact wrong.

“Regarding the words ‘Bible’ and ‘Trinity’ those are descriptors of clearly defined concepts found in scripture.”

Really? Show me the canon as listed in scripture. Does Matthew belong in the Bible? Where in scripture are we told it does? Explain to me what the Holy Spirit is in relation to the Father and Son using scripture alone.

“The ‘Pope’ or ‘Father’ if you will, are discouraged by Jesus himself.”

Actually, no. If that were the case, the two things would be true: 1) there would be ancient prohibitions among the orthodox about it, and universally among Protestants of the 16th and 17th century. Those don’t exist. 2) No Christian - or at least no Protestant Christian - would refer to their male parent as ‘father’, ‘Dad’, ‘Daddy’, or ‘pop’ - since they are all variations of “father’.

“Does tradition trump Jesus?”

Nope. And stupidity and ignorance do not trump truth - so I reject the falsehoods you’re pushing.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/call-no-man-father


59 posted on 11/11/2014 1:15:53 PM PST by vladimir998
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