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It’s Official: Mormon Founder Had Up to 40 Wives
NY Times ^
| November 10, 2014
| Laurie Goodstein
Posted on 11/11/2014 4:27:47 AM PST by Zakeet
Mormon leaders have acknowledged for the first time that the churchs founder and prophet, Joseph Smith, portrayed in church materials as a loyal partner to his loving spouse Emma, took as many as 40 wives, some already married and one only 14 years old.
The churchs disclosures, in a series of essays online, are part of an effort to be transparent about its history at a time when church members are increasingly encountering disturbing claims about the faith on the Internet. Many Mormons, especially those with polygamous ancestors, say they were well aware that Smiths successor, Brigham Young, practiced polygamy when he led the flock in Salt Lake City. But they did not know the full truth about Smith.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: brighamyoung; cult; culture; inman; josephsmith; mormonism; polygamy
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Several interesting points raised in the article:
- The Mormon Church has lied about this and many other subjects for years.
- The Church admitted the truth after a time when church members are increasingly encountering disturbing claims about the faith on the Internet.
- The Church admitted that one of Smith's wives was 14 years old -- making Smith a pedophile and a statutory rapist.
- The Church admitted that some of Smith's wives were were already married, some to men who were Smiths friends and followers.
- Reactions of some Church members has followed the five stages of grief, including: denial and anger.
According to Dr. Richard Bushman, a prominent historian, church leaders: Somewhere along the line they decided they were just going to tell the whole story, not to be defensive, not to try to hide anything. And theres no single fact thats more unsettling than Joseph Smiths marriage to other mens wives.
Its a recognition of maturity, said Dr. Bushman, who is a Mormon. There are lots of church leaders who say: We can take anything, just let us know how it really happened. Were a church that is secure.
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:27:47 AM PST
by
Zakeet
To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; ejonesie22; Elsie; Godzilla; Holly_P; MHGinTN; narses; ...
Ping to an article of interest.
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:29:54 AM PST
by
Zakeet
(Obama: fail ... deny ... blame ... golf ... distract ... lie ... repeat)
To: Zakeet
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:33:24 AM PST
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
( Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you,)
To: Zakeet
The official line within the Mormon community is “I knew that....”
Cognitive dissonance at its finest. We have proof even here on FR of Mormons vehemently denying that Smith was a polygamist in anything other than name. It boggles the mind.
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:35:08 AM PST
by
colorcountry
(The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
To: Zakeet
Hey Joe! Where you going ...
With that gun in your hand?
“I’m goin’ to shoot my old ladies,
Shoot ‘em down to the ground.”
Did you take the trash out, Joseph? X 40
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:36:24 AM PST
by
tumblindice
(America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
To: Zakeet
Sounds like he invented the cult to get the ladies.
Pray America is waking
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:40:50 AM PST
by
bray
(Palin/Perry)
To: Zakeet
Just in case Mitt Romney is is even daydreaming about a 2016 run, NYT has to put the ‘radicalism’ of Mormons back in the spotlight...
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:49:39 AM PST
by
DJ Frisat
(Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
To: bray
At least he didn’t order his followers to behead anybody who didn’t join up.
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:50:25 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: bray
Sounds like he invented the cult to get the ladies.Sounds familiar in history.
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:51:07 AM PST
by
The_Media_never_lie
(The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
To: Zakeet
>>Were a church that is secure. <<
That sounds like another religion we see often here.
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:51:20 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: Zakeet
How many “wives” (serial) has Bill Clinton had, or, for that matter, did JFK have, just while they were in the White House?
(not defending Joseph Smith, just asking that the NYT apply the same indignant standard to THEIR saints that the Times is applying to the Morman’s)
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:53:51 AM PST
by
BwanaNdege
(Mother of Epidemics- "Gang Green and the Government Staff Infection" - G. Morgan, Freedom Foundation)
To: Zakeet
So the church has been lying to them all these years?
Kind of makes you wonder what else they’ve been lying about, doesn’t it?
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:54:35 AM PST
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: DJ Frisat
The New York Times supports Romney’s agendae
of gay marriage, polygamy, and more.
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:58:08 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
(The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
To: CynicalBear
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posted on
11/11/2014 4:59:16 AM PST
by
sphinx
To: Zakeet
The similarities and disparities between Joehoeseph and Mohamed (Pigs be inseminating him) are remarkable.
Lucy has quite a range of deception!
If you're not following Jesus, guess where you're headed!
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posted on
11/11/2014 5:14:18 AM PST
by
rawcatslyentist
(Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
To: bray
Orson Welles said something similar once, along the lines that we men invented civilization to impress our girlfriends.
To: Zakeet
My brain inserted “Muslim” instead of “Mormon”.
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posted on
11/11/2014 5:21:25 AM PST
by
Politicalkiddo
("Now hatred is by far the longest pleasure; men love in haste, but they detest at leisure."-Byron)
To: colorcountry
We have proof even here on FR Got to admit I haven't seen that one. Can you give a few examples?
To: sphinx
Nope, don’t ever remember them with the moniker “shall not prevail against it” as referring to their church only.
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posted on
11/11/2014 5:25:45 AM PST
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: Zakeet
I just did a quick search on "Joseph Smith not a polygamist"- Several authors, websites and Mormon apologist have some explaining to do.
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