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Jesus is Not the Property of Liberal Commentators
Catholic Answers ^ | November 6, 2014 | Trent Horn

Posted on 11/07/2014 3:41:28 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 11/07/2014 3:41:28 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 11/07/2014 3:41:49 PM PST by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

The man hated his father and everything he stood for.


3 posted on 11/07/2014 3:51:02 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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It is interesting that liberal media and websites attack Christianity almost daily today. NY Times, Huffington Post, Salon, etc.. In the past, the atheists kept a somewhat lower profile. In the Obama era, it is open season on Christians and Jews.


4 posted on 11/07/2014 4:09:58 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: NYer

I saw Jesus for sale as a velvet picture in a cheap frame. Right next to Elvis. At a flea market.


5 posted on 11/07/2014 4:11:33 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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It’s too bad that a cuckoo bird like Frank Schaeffer gets so much attention. He left evangelicalism and became Greek Orthodox and promptly began to lecture the Church what real Orthodoxy is. Now he is pretty much an atheist; or, as he puts it, “an atheist who believes in God.” He goes to Liturgy in Greek, but says he doesn’t understand a word of it , which he says is a good thing. Now he sells a leftist secularism as his faith, saying that is the religion of Jesus. Why doesn’t he give it up? I think it’s because he has been a professional Christian his entire life and doesn’t know what else to do with himself.


6 posted on 11/07/2014 4:14:00 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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7 posted on 11/07/2014 4:50:56 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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1: This is why conservative Christians donate more to charity. Because we hate the poor, yep.
2: Jesus followed the law perfectly, this is why he was the perfect sacrifice for OUR sin.
3: Jesus urged a return to tradition and what is right, not some leftist feel-good garbage.

To sum it up, leftists hate God, this is why they twist His word so much to fit their view.


8 posted on 11/07/2014 4:56:56 PM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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Jesus is just alright with me. I’m thinking of writing a song. (sarcasm) The assault on Christianity never ends. But ya’ know what? We can handle it.


9 posted on 11/07/2014 5:01:57 PM PST by WyCoKsRepublican
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for christians, the priority is to follow Christ first and always

any political ideology has to come second

the problem with Frank Schaeffer is his political ideology comes first

and any religious beliefs have to serve that ideology

which is why he started as an evangelical, then became greek orthodox, and now is an atheist who occasionally “deigns to talk to God”

Romans 1: any created thing put ahead of God is idolatry

Frank Schaeffer puts liberalism first, not God


10 posted on 11/07/2014 5:02:19 PM PST by Reverend Wright (the Obama Presidency: if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesnÂ’t make them Kobe Bryant)
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Frankie Schaeffer is the poster boy for lowlife ingrate children who ride on their parents’ cred, while bad-mouthing all the parents stood for.
What a difference between Frankie Schaeffer and Franklin Graham!


11 posted on 11/07/2014 5:09:02 PM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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Frank Schaeffer is to theology and especially Protestant theology what Ron Reagan is to politics. If it weren’t for their being liberal kids of famous conservative parents, nobody much would care (nobody would much care? works either way).


12 posted on 11/07/2014 5:23:37 PM PST by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon...and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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Are you saying Jesus hated his Father in heaven?

I don’t think so.


13 posted on 11/07/2014 5:24:15 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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And as I’ve said before, Jesus is neither left nor right but royalist. Why would the King of Kings and Lord of Lords be anything else?


14 posted on 11/07/2014 5:26:14 PM PST by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon...and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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To: Louis Foxwell

Sorry, I see you mean the younger Schaeffer hated the older Schaeffer. My mistake.


15 posted on 11/07/2014 5:26:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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When Jesus comes back it won’t be as the Son of Man - it will be as Conqueror and Lord of All. The author’s arguments will then be moot.


16 posted on 11/07/2014 5:51:59 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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Schaeffer writes:

“Every time Jesus mentioned the equivalent of a church tradition, the Torah, he qualified it with something like this: “The scriptures say thus and so, but I say . . .””

That’s not how it works. What Jesus actually says is, “You have heard it said... but I say...” — and the “you have heard it said” part is *tradition*, not scripture. Jesus is demanding that people pay more attention to what God actually said rather what some “important person” said about what God actually said. Often as not, he is challenging tradition that excused people from God’s clear command.

Jesus was urging people to go “back to the source” of the original scriptures, pretty much the exact opposite of what Schaeffer claims.


17 posted on 11/07/2014 7:46:20 PM PST by Amity
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I'm sure glad I've collected and have in my possession all his father's, even his mother's, books. These were particularly helpful earlier in my life, not flawless, but bold in presenting first the mere possibility of an intellectual basis for Christianity. Since that time that mere possibility has become much sounder still, standing sound for nearly a half century. It might not have been possible had I not encountered Dr. Schaeffer's work, at a critical time.

Pray for Franky. God's truth is marching on.

18 posted on 11/07/2014 7:59:16 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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It seems to me that he is obsessed with judging church-going Christians. He is so proud of his so-called tolerance.

If he knew Jesus better, he would know that everything he is saying is false. Jesus dud not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it.

Soup kitchens, food shelves, missionaries, both medical and religious, serve all sorts of people. Very few of them are atheists. Most are church goers.


19 posted on 11/07/2014 8:43:41 PM PST by Gumdrop (woamn)
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Franky Schaeffer is a brat who never grew up.


20 posted on 11/07/2014 9:13:17 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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