Posted on 11/06/2014 2:29:33 PM PST by NYer
Yeah. Catholics believe in Baptism. It’s a mark, like a brand. It means you belong to God. If you don’t believe in Baptism, then you’re not Catholic. It’s pretty simple.
I want to see more Kumbaya posts on the religion thread about how we are all believers in HIS church, which is not an earthly church but a spiritual one. That is the real One True Church.
In other words, THANK the RCC for giving to the world the Holy Bible.
Not necessarily so. We are obligated only to believe DOGMA, nothing else. DOGMA is explained in our religion classes, catechism, sermons, etc. There isn't THAT much DOGMA.
By the way, how do you KNOW that Catholics "around the world choose what they believe..."?? Do you have a crystal ball or something? NO ONE knows that except God. Or do YOU have some special ear to the Almighty OR to the minds/souls/hearts of all 1.6 billion Catholics [Google] around the world?
Who makes his own truth? I don't. I doubt that you do either.
God bless you and yours.
First of all The Vatican is not on one of the seven hills spoken of in Revelation. It is across the Tiber.
The significance of Rome lies primarily in the fact that it is the city of the pope. source: http://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=10148
"Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits...Rev 17:9
ummmmmm.....
The bashing needs to end from both sides, it merely weakens us and keeps our minds and souls diverted from Jesus and more susceptible to Satan gaining control.
.....And a good deal of these same Catholics turned their backs on Obama a few short days ago.
>>First of all The Vatican is not on one of the seven hills spoken of in Revelation. It is across the Tiber.<< Well, let's see what the vatican has to say about that. "The ancient city of Rome was originally built on the topographical layout of seven separate hills. These seven hills were joined together by the ancient walls of Rome- the Servian walls. The Seven Hills of Rome lie in the east to the Tiber River. Later many more areas were annexed to the city. The city walls were extended to include them also and the city is now much bigger than its original territory. The Vatican and Vatican hill are included in the Areas that were added to the city much later in history." [http://vatican.com/articles/rome/the_seven_hills_of_rome-a4131] The Catholics using that lame "across the Tiber" doesn't work. "The Vatican and Vatican hill are included".
The Vatican is on the west side of the Tiber. The seven hills were the Palatine, Capitoline, Aventine, Caelian, Esquiline, Quirinal, Viminal
You and your strong delusion have a nice day now, ya' hear?
Oh well, so much for trying to get folks to think about Christian unity. Perhaps they will get unified in Heaven after they are all beheaded by ISIS because they were to busy fighting amongst each other than to fight the real enemy.
“Why are you trying to tell Catholics what to believe?”
If you post on an open discussion thread, it is reasonable to assume someone will respond to what you posted. I did so.
You will believe what you choose to believe. I am only pointing out that what you posted was false.
Likewise.
You are mistaken.
if so, it would be an improvement over their prior voting patterns.
year % voting for
1948: 62 (gallup) dimocrat win
1952: 52 republican win
1956: 46 republican win
1960: 82 dimocrat win
1964: 79 dimocrat win
1968: 56 republican win
1972: 39 republican win
1976: 57 dimocrat win
1980: 41 republican win
1984: 46 republican win
1988: 52 republican win
1992: 50 dimocrat win
1996: 55 dimocrat win
2000: 50 republican win
2004: 51 republican win
2008: 57 dimocrat win
2012: 53 dimocrat win
Source: National Election Studies
In the presidential elections since 1948 catholics have voted for dimocrats 76% of the time.
catholics in dim leadership positions:
note: these all vote to allow the murder of the unborn child.
D-Joe Biden (VP): Catholic
D-Nancy Pelosi (HOR): Catholic
D-John Kerry (sec state): Catholic
Sinators
D-Patrick Leahy: Catholic
D-Dick Durbin: Catholic
D-Patty Murray: Catholic
D-Mark Begich: Catholic
D-Maria Cantwell: Catholic
D-Bob Casey: Catholic
D-Joe Donnelly: Catholic
D-Kristen Gillibrand: Catholic
D-Tom Harkin: Catholic (fired)
D-Heidi Heitkamp: Catholic
D-Tim Kaine: Catholic
D-Mary Landrieu: Catholic (about to be fired we hope)
D-Joe Manchin: Catholic
D-Ed Markey: Catholic
D-Robert Menendez: Catholic
D-Claire McCaskill: Catholic
D-Barbara Mikulski: Catholic
D-Jack Reed: Catholic
hey, you're stealing versa's line! :)
This guy is clueless...And I’ll bet it won’t be long and we’ll see priests holding hands during your Mass...
Millions of Catholics in America alone make up their own theology. I base that on the consistent voting patterns, the consistent survey results they answer... And the 2.6 children per catholic family - identical to the culture the live in here in former America.
As to 1.6 billion Catholics...
Nah. There are whole nations where +85% never attend all year. It is a stretch to call them anything but people in need of a Savior. Other than puffery, it carries little meaning to count them.
Best.
Cc Daniel1212 - I seem to remember you posted extensive catholic survey results before...
This is ALWAYS a useless thread.
One can EASILY understand the Protestant Reformation. Such enmity here. I hope excommunicated and defrocked Father Martin Luther is happy with the fruits of his labor. He even has a denomination named after him.
Protestants can boast of 40,000 different denominations. One wonders WHAT separates them. Doctrine, dogma, traditions? What? And, in the end, what does it matter to you or to me? If they are content with their faith, so be it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_dogma
Catholics HAVE to believe Roman Catholic DOGMA. The other things, Apostolic tradition, for one, may NOT be dogma.
So I say, let them be. They can vent their hearts out. Maybe they need it. It doesn't bother me a bit if I am attacked because of my faith. Jesus said that would happen.
We only have to look at how so many Christians, those FIRST Catholics (Catholic means UNIVERSAL), were treated by the Roman Empire.
MOST people are Christian enough in their ideology to let people be. Also, when I hear this I wonder just HOW secure they are with their own faith if they have to denigrate others. I speak to ALL sides.
God will judge us all anyway so what we say here about others' faiths doesn't amount to a hill of beans. :o):o)
God bless you and yours, Salvation!
God bless you and yours.
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