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To: Mrs. Don-o; SpirituTuo

Then why did Pope Francis propose Holy Communion for adulterers on his plane trip back from his Rio World Yute Day?

Why did Francis choose Kasper to preach in favor of the same heresy?

>>I would like to thank him, because I found a deep theology, and serene thoughts in theology. It is nice to read serene theology. It did me well and I had an idea, and excuse me if I embarrass Your Eminence, but the idea is: this is called doing theology while kneeling. Thank you. Thank you.<<

Since when is condoning mortal sin doing “theology while kneeling”? They have lost the faith.


24 posted on 10/31/2014 3:44:15 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
This is the entire transcript of Pope Francis' remarks on the airplane back from World Youth Day, on marriage. At no point did he propose Holy Communion for adulterers:

About the problem of Communion to those persons in a second union, that the divorced might participate in Communion, there is no problem. When they are in a second union, they can't. [My note: that's about as plain as you can get, isn't it?]

I believe that it is necessary to keep this within the entirety of pastoral care of marriage. And for this it is a problem. But also... a parenthesis, the Orthodox have a different praxis. They follow the theology of economy, as they called it, and they give a second chance, they allow it. But I believe that this problem, and I close the parenthesis, must be studied in the framework of marriage pastoral ministry.

And for this, two things: first, one of the themes to be consulted with the eight of this council of cardinals, with whom we'll be meeting the 1st, 2nd and 3rd of October, is how to move ahead in the pastoral care of marriage, and this problem will come up there.

And, a second thing, the secretary of the Synod of Bishops was with me 15 days ago for the theme of the next Synod. It was an anthropological theme, but speaking and speaking again, coming and going, we have seen this anthropological theme, the faith, how it helps the planning of the person, but in the family, and going then on to the pastoral care of marriage.

We are on the path for a more profound pastoral care of marriage. And, this is a problem for all, because there are so many, right? For instance, I'll tell you of just one, Cardinal Quarracino, (9) my predecessor, said that for him half of all marriages are null. That's what he said. Why? Because they are married without maturity, they get married without realizing that it's for an entire lifetime, or they are married because socially they must get married.

And in this also pastoral care of marriage is a factor. And also the judicial problem of the nullity of marriage, that must be revisited, because the ecclesiastical courts aren't enough for this.

It is complex, the problem of the pastoral care of marriage. Thank you.


30 posted on 10/31/2014 4:59:31 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: ebb tide
I personally think Cardinal Kasper's influence on the other Bishops gets lower and lower, the more he runs his mouth.Most Leftists, when they think they have the power, overplay their hand. And Casper certainly has. Pope Francis is giving Cardinal Kasper enough rope to hang himself.

Rhetorically speaking.

And whether intentional or not, that's how it's turning out.

31 posted on 10/31/2014 5:02:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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