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The Notre Dame Scandal Just Got So Much Worse
Creative Minority Report ^ | 10/29/14 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 10/29/2014 6:26:17 PM PDT by marshmallow

This is not good. You likely remember that earlier this month, the University of Notre Dame announced that it was complying with the law by offering spousal benefits to same-sex partners.

The problem is...there's no such law.

The Sycamore Trust released its latest bulletin and it's a must read.

As we have reported, earlier this month the university announced that, since same-sex marriages are now legal in Indiana after the Supreme Court refused to review the lower court decisions striking down Indiana's ban, Notre Dame would extend spousal benefits to spouses in same-sex civil marriages. Those benefits include not only health insurance but such particularly symbolic privileges as married student housing. The university explained:

Notre Dame is a Catholic university and endorses a Catholic view of marriage. However, it will follow the relevant civil law and begin to implement this change immediately.

We thought Notre Dame meant there is some law requiring Notre Dame to do this. We thought "follow the law" meant, well, follow the law. You might have thought the same thing.

You would have been wrong.

Since we couldn't find such a law, we asked the university to tell us which law they meant and why they hadn't raised a religious liberty objection. When we received no reply, we wrote again, this time to the general counsel with a copy to Father Jenkins. We said we'd conclude there is no such law if we got no response within a week.

Again, no reply.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholicnomore; notredame
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To: marshmallow



~ PRAYER ~

St. Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle
 Be our protection against the wickedness
and snares of the devil;
May God rebuke him, we  humbly pray,
 and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
 by the power of God,
 Cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits
who prowl through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
 Amen
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21 posted on 10/29/2014 7:47:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Do Catholics ever pray from the heart with their own words? Or do they only read prayers or say memorized prayers repetitiously? That’s a rhetorical question of course.


22 posted on 10/29/2014 8:02:04 PM PDT by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: Old Yeller

Of course, I am praying for you right now.


23 posted on 10/29/2014 8:03:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow
"Our abiding goal…is to build a less imperfect community of love."

LOL! Well, the dumbass has got that part right.

24 posted on 10/29/2014 8:08:04 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: metmom

too much money....so much money....


25 posted on 10/29/2014 8:31:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: terycarl

“when you answer a question with a question, it usually means that you don’t know the answer to either of them. “


26 posted on 10/29/2014 10:16:05 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Old Yeller

And I thought they didn’t pray TO *saints* or angels FOR things.

That prayer is absolutely directed TO Michael asking him for his protection. Don’t see anywhere where he is being asked to pray to God for something.


27 posted on 10/29/2014 10:20:54 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation

Why not pray right to God and intercede for the church yourself?

Is He not capable of hearing and answering a prayer directed to HIM to protect HIS OWN CHURCH Himself?

Or do Catholics think that God won’t hear and answer their prayers to Him Himself?


28 posted on 10/29/2014 10:23:21 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: VeniVidiVici
"Our abiding goal…is to build a less imperfect community of love."

LOL! Well, the dumbass has got that part right.

And in the meantime, God is busy somewhere else building HIS church, which is not the same thing as they're working on.

29 posted on 10/29/2014 10:25:12 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: marshmallow

Why not offer $800 in petty cash for abortions too?

That’s the law too...


30 posted on 10/29/2014 11:04:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: shibumi

ping!


31 posted on 10/30/2014 12:01:28 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Old Yeller
Do Catholics ever pray from the heart with their own words? Or do they only read prayers or say memorized prayers repetitiously? That’s a rhetorical question of course.

It's a lazy question but I'll answer it anyway.

Why should it logically follow that because the prayer was not composed by me that it can't come "from the heart?" What makes your prayers any better than those composed by somebody else? What makes a prayer which inevitably begins with the line ..."Father, we just want to...." any better than those composed by one of the saints? Why would you assume that because a prayer was not "my own words", it couldn't come from the heart?

Do you sing hymns? Yes? Do you find them to be uplifting? Do you find them to be a form of prayer? Do the words come from your heart when you sing?

Now the key question. Did you compose those hymns? Ahhaaaa!!! You're repeating the words of somebody else, you repetitious parrot!

Jesus taught us how to pray...Thus therefore shall you pray: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. [10] Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven......
Matthew 6:9.

Do you have a problem praying those words given to us by Jesus? You didn't compose them and you wouldn't want to be repetitious would you?

Repetition in prayer is actually a virtue since it indicates persistence and perseverance in prayer. See the parable of the unjust judge (Luke 18:1) who granted the widow her request because of her insistence.

What part of Christian theology says that God does not want to hear the same words twice?

32 posted on 10/30/2014 4:10:00 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: DiogenesLamp

If your company promises to give benefits to legally married couples, they have to give benefits to legally married couples.
Think of it as like making a deal with the devil. If you don’t think they are morally married, it doesn’t mean they aren’t legally married and your agreement is for married couples.


33 posted on 10/30/2014 5:32:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: marshmallow

No surprise here, the universities are where all of this inhuman crap started being accepted to begin with.

This is where people are sending their tweety winks to prepare them for the future, this is the future.


34 posted on 10/30/2014 6:06:12 AM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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To: AppyPappy
If your company promises to give benefits to legally married couples, they have to give benefits to legally married couples. Think of it as like making a deal with the devil. If you don’t think they are morally married, it doesn’t mean they aren’t legally married and your agreement is for married couples.

Your agreement is for what "Married Couples" meant when you made the agreement. It is not for what "Married Couples" means now that the courts have re-defined it.

As Abraham Lincoln said: "Suppose you call a tail a leg. How many legs would a sheep have?"

The man answered "five."

Lincoln responded "No, four. Just because you call a tail a leg, doesn't make it so."

Just because unelected court officials call homosexuals "married" doesn't make it so.

35 posted on 10/30/2014 8:29:24 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Evidently, it does make it so because you agreed to cover any legal marriage.
And you don’t need to be a homosexual to be in a same-sex marriage.


36 posted on 10/30/2014 9:13:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: metmom

Catholics do pray to God individually, any time. But we are sociable. We also like to pray with friends, family, our heroes of the faith, angels, in this world and the next. At least some Protestants pray together, right? Jesus himself communicated with Moses and Elijah in the Transfiguration. He sought out baptism from John the Baptist. Sure he could talk to his Father directly in both instances, but sometimes he teamed up with others, in this world and the next. So when we do it, aren’t we being Christlike, and biblical?

If you don’t like it, pray for us. All by yourself. Thanks.


37 posted on 10/30/2014 11:16:18 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: AppyPappy
Evidently, it does make it so because you agreed to cover any legal marriage.

Your adherence to lawyerese is not impressing anyone. Decent and moral people do not tolerate the re-definition of long existing and long understood English terms.

We do not have to put up with the Orwellianization of our language and culture, and I urge everyone to resist this and other judicial tyranny to the extent that they are able.

38 posted on 10/30/2014 12:38:55 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: marshmallow
Matthew is correct: "This is not good." My dh's post of a couple weeks back was featured on Pewsitter, which brought in some interesting folks from the U.S. House of Representatives to the Holy See, to the NCCB. Bill Dempsey is doing a great job over at Sycamore Trust, and folks like my husband, Tom O'Toole, and to a greater extent, Michael Voris (both ND grads), help out as much as they can. Please help us, dear Jesus, please help us: http://www.fightingirishthomas.com/2014/10/fr-john-jenkins-and-politics-of-notre.html
39 posted on 10/30/2014 12:41:12 PM PDT by mlizzy (is)
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To: DiogenesLamp

They signed a deal with the devil and now he requires his due.


40 posted on 10/30/2014 1:25:12 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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