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To: Normandy; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; All
I consider any messenger sent from God to be an angel, and Moroni, once a man on earth, to be one.

Except you can't point to any "angel" specifically id'd as a "man" in the Bible, can you?

Except you can't point to any "angel" specifically id'd as a "man" in the Book of Mormon in the Bible, can you? (iow...Moroni or any other Book of Mormon character isn't id'd as an "angel" there)

And if that's important doctrinally, why is that nowhere to be found in those sources?

Normandy...we cannot alwas simply take what an "angel" says at face value; we need to be "noble" like the Bereans were:

11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. (Acts 17:11)

We have to examine the claims of any "latterday" "gospel" vs. previous revelations re: the Biblical Gospel. If you don't, you fail to be "noble" (like the Bereans)

Hence, Paul says that if a new "angel" on the block begins preaching amiss...a "new" "gospel"...that "angel" is to be cursed!!!!

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! (Galatians one:six to nine)

79 posted on 10/29/2014 7:29:08 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Normandy; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; All
Addendum to end of my last post...

Even Mormonism acknowledges that certain "revelations" are "of the devil." What's interesting is this quote...found in the Mormon church-owned Deseret News...concedes that SOME of the directives Mormons have been told to do by Smith "...are of the devil":

...Whitmer wrote that Hyrum Smith, Joseph's brother, suggested selling the copyright in Canada to raise money and that Hyrum \"persuaded Joseph to inquire of the Lord about it.\"According to Whitmer, Joseph used his seer stone \"and received a revelation that some of the brethren should go to Toronto, Canada, and that they would sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon.\"Oliver Cowdery, Joseph Knight, Hiram Page and Josiah Stowell were selected for the task to go to Canada.The brethren, however, failed to sell the copyright.Whitmer wrote that he remembered when Page and Cowdery returned: \"Well, we were all in great trouble; and we asked Joseph how it was that he had received a revelation from the Lord for some brethren to go to Toronto and sell the copy-right, and the brethren had utterly failed in their undertaking.\"Whitmer said Joseph \"enquired of the Lord about it\" and received a revelation that said, \"Some revelations are of God: some revelations are of man: and some revelations are of the devil.\"\

Source: Newly found revelation of Joseph Smith

IoW...Smith isn't trustworthy...Moroni wasn't...

Deuteronomy 18 indicates that if a prophet speaks as a prophet even only once falsely, look out!

19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” 21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

How many times does it take to lie to be deemed a liar? (once)
How many times does it take to murder to be deemed a murderer? (once)
How many times does it take to proclaim a false prophecy to be deemed a false prophet? (once)

80 posted on 10/29/2014 7:47:59 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
And if that's important doctrinally, why is that nowhere to be found in those sources?

Mormonism is RIFE with 'claims' that are not found in it's scriptures.


To wit...

...A plaque, on a statue in Temple Square, makes the claim:


I challenge any Mormon to show us just WHERE, in the BoM, this so called FULLNESS is to be found.

83 posted on 10/30/2014 4:15:59 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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