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To: piytar

>>God arising from nothingness (or rather a quantum foam of near-nothingness) before time had any meaning is FAR more likely from an entropy perspective than a super-low entropy Big Bang just happening on its own. After all, a single God arising would be a far smaller shift in entropy from low to high (something that does happen on occasion due to quantum fluctuations) than a self-generated Big Bang.

God would of necessity be a being who could shift high entropy space to low entropy space, would be immortal, and would exist outside of what we perceive as time.

IOW God existing outside of time, saying “Let there be Light,” and that causing the Big Bang is actually the likeliest explanation for the universe from a scientific view of entropy.<<

I think Harlan Ellison has already been there. His original treatment for one of the Star Trek movies was the Enterprise actually finds God. The God of Moses, father of Jesus, the real deal.

They ended up watering it down which led to one of the funniest lines in any movie ever: “excuse me, what does God need with a starship?”

The important thing about God is He didn’t come from Nothing — he just Was and Is. We can no more define that (or grasp it) than an ant on a tapestry can see much less understand the tapestry’s content.

I hope you aren’t bummed about the Harlan Ellison thing... he is a great writer and beloved for his relationship with The good Doctor if nothing else.


77 posted on 10/27/2014 2:55:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: freedumb2003; piytar
1Corinthians 13:12
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

82 posted on 10/27/2014 3:01:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: freedumb2003

Not bummed at all. Thanks for the info!


93 posted on 10/27/2014 3:22:42 PM PDT by piytar (So....you are saying that Hilllary (and Obola) do not know what the meaning of the word "IS" IS?)
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