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To: vladimir998
I think that is a very telling comment coming from someone who has - over the years - spent hundreds and hundreds of hours posting anti-Catholic comments.

So, you acknowledge you're doing the same thing? Your own words condemn you, then. I'm not anti-Catholic just anti-CatholicISM in the areas where this religion has perverted the gospel of the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. You cannot name one doctrine Luther supposedly "invented" that cannot be proven to have been at one time a doctrine held by the earliest Christians and backed up by sacred Scripture.

I've also said repeatedly that I don't follow Martin Luther - the man's been in heaven for the last five hundred years! I think it is sad, but comical, that his name gets dragged out on these threads like some kind of talisman to ward off anything a "Protestant" - by your own definition - might have to say on ANY topic dealing with Christianity. I'll gladly swat it down when I see it. Though, with some Catholic anti-Protestants, it won't matter how many times their false statements are obliterated by facts they'll lob them out the very next chance they get as if they don't know any better - even though they've been corrected numerous times. I don't think they are "well meaning", just deceptive.

Newsflash....the Roman Catholic church doesn't own "Christianity", the appellation "church", the Bible, the Apostles or the tenets of the faith. If they happen to still hold to those that have been believed always, everywhere and by all, then we are in agreement. For those novel and modified areas, I will disagree and I can defend WHY I do. When I do, it is out of charity, not contempt, disgust or hatred. It is God's will that all be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. It is a spiritual battle I will gear up for when I sense His call.

122 posted on 10/18/2014 9:26:00 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

“So, you acknowledge you’re doing the same thing?”

No.

“Your own words condemn you, then.”

Again, no.

“I’m not anti-Catholic just anti-CatholicISM in the areas where this religion has perverted the gospel of the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ.”

There is no such perversion of the gospel by the Church. Only Protestant sects have perverted the gospel.

“You cannot name one doctrine Luther supposedly “invented” that cannot be proven to have been at one time a doctrine held by the earliest Christians and backed up by sacred Scripture.”

False. I said, “His”. I think you know what they are. I just see no reason to name what has already been named many times.

“I’ve also said repeatedly that I don’t follow Martin Luther - the man’s been in heaven for the last five hundred years!”

So you assume. And you do follow him theologically.

“I think it is sad, but comical, that his name gets dragged out on these threads like some kind of talisman to ward off anything a “Protestant” - by your own definition - might have to say on ANY topic dealing with Christianity.”

The reason why he is so often mentioned is that Protestantism and its heresies started with him. They are not part of orthodox Christianity.

“I’ll gladly swat it down when I see it.”

You could not do that no matter how hard you tried.

“Though, with some Catholic anti-Protestants, it won’t matter how many times their false statements are obliterated by facts they’ll lob them out the very next chance they get as if they don’t know any better - even though they’ve been corrected numerous times. I don’t think they are “well meaning”, just deceptive.”

Luther’s heresies are false doctrines, not false statements.

“Newsflash....the Roman Catholic church doesn’t own “Christianity”,”

Newsflash...The Catholic Church essentially is Christianity.

“the appellation “church”,”

Is correctly applied only to those ecclesial bodies with valid sacraments and priesthoods - which eliminates all Protestant sects.

“the Bible,”

Is a Catholic book.

“the Apostles”

Were all leaders of the Catholic Church and knew nothing of Protestantism.

“or the tenets of the faith.”

Which are entirely Catholic.

“If they happen to still hold to those that have been believed always, everywhere and by all, then we are in agreement.”

Protestantism was invented almost 500 years ago - which was almost 1500 years too late to be “believed always, everywhere and by all”.

“For those novel and modified areas, I will disagree and I can defend WHY I do.”

Protestantism is novel. Even Alistair McGrath says that Luther introduced a novem into theology.

“When I do, it is out of charity, not contempt, disgust or hatred.”

You can make whatever claim you want. Your posting suggests something different than your claim.

“It is God’s will that all be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.”

And that’s why He sent the Church rather than Protestantism.

“It is a spiritual battle I will gear up for when I sense His call.”

Your “sense” is irrelevant and erroneous.


128 posted on 10/19/2014 6:05:46 AM PDT by vladimir998
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