[Arthur McGowan]

Just to be clear:

You don’t believe that Baptism removes Original Sin or forgives actual sins? Or that it causes the indwelling of the Trinity? Or that it gives grace?

It’s just a ritual that makes a person a member of a club?

[ealgeone]

Just to be clear: You don’t believe that Baptism removes Original Sin or forgives actual sins? Or that it causes the indwelling of the Trinity? Or that it gives grace? It’s just a ritual that makes a person a member of a club?

Real life scenario: someone who is not saved is at the hospital with moments to live. they repent and profess faith in Christ. upon doing so they immediately die.

Are they saved?

Do they go to Heaven?

[knarf]

Is that what happened in the Jordan to Jesus when John baptized HIM ?

Please be clear

[Iscool]

You don’t believe that Baptism removes Original Sin or forgives actual sins? Or that it causes the indwelling of the Trinity? Or that it gives grace?

If you are speaking John's baptism, eg, water baptism, no...