[ealgeone]

Just to be clear: You don’t believe that Baptism removes Original Sin or forgives actual sins? Or that it causes the indwelling of the Trinity? Or that it gives grace? It’s just a ritual that makes a person a member of a club?

Real life scenario: someone who is not saved is at the hospital with moments to live. they repent and profess faith in Christ. upon doing so they immediately die.

Are they saved?

Do they go to Heaven?

[Arthur McGowan]

Yes.

[Arthur McGowan]

So?

[Rashputin]

It's like Scripture saying the thief on the cross would be with Christ that day in Paradise when "everyone knows" that when someone dies they're asleep until either the big Surrender and Evacuation Party or until the final Resurrection.

Same with Baptism, that's what Scripture says, but that's not what it means.