No, not just "agreable". The apostles did NOT decide with agreement from the Holy Spirit. That could ONLY declare what " had already been" bound or loosed in heaven. The Greek is "will have been".
>>Second: servant authority is exactly what I'm talking about. This is the kind of authority Christ gives His Church.<<
No, the Catholic Church inserts the word " authority" which is not there in scripture nor is it inferred or implied.
the biggest flaw i see, not only with the roman catholic cult, but other churches is the lack of use of the Greek. In the vast majority of situations a use of the Greek clears up the matter.
For ex: catholics like to cite Hail Mary as being biblical to justify giving Mary a false title and false worship.
But a closer look at the Greek shows the angel was only greeting Mary.
When we see this it brings into focus the proper view of Mary we should have.
In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Why would anyone become Catholic?, CynicalBear wrote:
>>If the apostles, pastors, administrators (as listed by Paul) are “binding or loosing” something on earth, it is because “it is agreeable to the Holy Spirit<<
No, not just “agreable”. The apostles did NOT decide with agreement from the Holy Spirit. That could ONLY declare what “ had already been” bound or loosed in heaven. The Greek is “will have been”.
>>Second: servant authority is exactly what I’m talking about. This is the kind of authority Christ gives His Church.<<
No, the Catholic Church inserts the word “ authority” which is not there in scripture nor is it inferred or implied.
ROTFLMAO! Too funny.
Otherwise we're just slinging hash and not actually getting to the significance of these passages.
Ultimate authority is always Christ's, with the Father, in the unity of the Holy Spirit. He does, however, delegate. We can get an idea of the significance of the concept of delegated authority when we look at Isaiah's foreshadowing passage about the "keys"
:
Isaiah 22:21-23
And I will clothe him with your tunic
And tie your sash securely about him.
I will entrust him with your authority,
And he will become a father
to the inhabitants of Jerusalem
and to the house of Judah.
"Then I will set the key of the house of David
on his shoulder,
When he opens no one will shut,
When he shuts no one will open.
"I will drive him like a peg in a firm place,
And he will become a throne of glory to his father's house.
There it is: the keys, the delegation of authority, the opening and closing. The commentaries from Clark and the rest, here (LINK) are especially helpful --- and no, they're not Catholic commentaries. It is simply not debatable that the keys are the ensign of authority.