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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

“The early Church and today’s Catholic empire are two entirely different animals”.

The early protestants and today’s protestants are
entirely different animals. The early protestants were basically still Catholic in their worship, from vestments to liturgy. Today’s protestants have no liturgy to speak of, wear no vestments, and have absolutely no authority, other than themselves.

The sacraments of the Catholic Church have been the same for thousands of years. Try learning some history of Christianity before you venture off into something you know nothing about, which is Catholicism.


755 posted on 10/11/2014 9:50:35 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
...”basically still Catholic in their worship, from vestments to liturgy”....

Which was ‘a copy’ of the municipalities of Rome at that time. From the architecture of their buildings to the promenade of priests to the alter...all a copy of the “royalty” of Rome....which Jesus never established.

760 posted on 10/11/2014 9:55:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: NKP_Vet; metmom; CynicalBear; caww; Resettozero
The early protestants and today’s protestants are
entirely different animals. The early protestants were basically still Catholic in their worship, from vestments to liturgy. Today’s protestants have no liturgy to speak of, wear no vestments, and have absolutely no authority, other than themselves.

I never knew "vestments" were so important. I thought belief in and obedience to Him trumped fancy dress.

You never answered the question about whether Peter wore flashy pope-robes and a big hat. How about living in palatial rooms with gold fixtures? Is that how Jesus lived on Earth? Why doesn't the ranking Catholic live as our Lord demonstrated?

You said Catholicism was “the Church established by Jesus through Peter.” If this were true then the logical conclusion is that Church has gone far astray.

762 posted on 10/11/2014 10:00:06 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: NKP_Vet
The sacraments of the Catholic Church have been the same for thousands of years.

That would mean they had sacraments centuries before they even existed, the Catholic Church is quite a few hundred year shy of even 2k years old.

Today’s protestants have no liturgy to speak of, wear no vestments, and have absolutely no authority, other than themselves.

No, they do not take on the trappings of the Pharisees.

Protestants, as well as other non-Catholic Religion Christians--you are right--they have no authority. All authority belongs and comes from Jesus through the Holy Spirit. Works quite well.

God is supreme, not a pope.

790 posted on 10/11/2014 10:43:03 AM PDT by Syncro (The Body of Christ [His church]: Made up of every born again Christian. Source--Jesus in the Bible)
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To: NKP_Vet
Your post 755....did Jesus, Paul, and the rest of the apostles/disciples wear such apparel??

Didn't think so.

793 posted on 10/11/2014 10:45:29 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NKP_Vet; Rides_A_Red_Horse
>>from vestments to liturgy.<<

Surely they didn't wear those fish hats copied from the priests to the fish god Dagon that Catholic priests wear did they?

837 posted on 10/11/2014 2:09:23 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: NKP_Vet
Today’s protestants have no liturgy to speak of, wear no vestments, and have absolutely no authority, other than themselves.

James 2:1-3
My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism.

For if a man comes into your assembly with a gold ring and dressed in fine clothes, and there also comes in a poor man in dirty clothes, and you pay special attention to the one who is wearing the fine clothes, and say, "You sit here in a good place," and you say to the poor man, "You stand over there, or sit down by my footstool..."

867 posted on 10/11/2014 3:10:47 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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