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To: daniel1212
Believer's (adult) baptism was a minority position among Protestants until the 1800's and the Great Awakenings, the effects of which can be seen today.

Thanks for a civil and interesting lesson. I see that, from your perspective, Protestantism evolved and assume for the intents and purposes of this discussion has only recently evolved to what you consider the truth. The problem I see in this is still the same, for Modern Protestantism to be correct, Orthodox Christianity has to be wrong, and we both can admit historical, original Protestantism was wrong, albeit for different reasons.

3,191 posted on 10/24/2014 7:47:17 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
The problem I see in this is still the same, for Modern Protestantism to be correct, Orthodox Christianity has to be wrong, and we both can admit historical, original Protestantism was wrong, albeit for different reasons.

The problem is not admitting that "Orthodox Christianity" was manifestly not Orthodox as regards the NT church, as shown, and that thus the Reformation itself, though it basically corrected the salvific error of Rome, that of justification by one's own holiness thru sprinkling of water, and purgatory (usually), must be continued.

3,195 posted on 10/24/2014 8:16:36 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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