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To: CynicalBear
Please show where the apostles taught that.
  1. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren. And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
  2. And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church.
  3. And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.
  4. Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
  5. Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
  6. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
  7. When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
  8. My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
  9. For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
  10. Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.
  11. Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
  12. Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
  13. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
  14. This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

Bear, do you know who your bishop is ?

2,295 posted on 10/18/2014 3:49:04 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; CynicalBear

Bear, do you know who your bishop is ?


Do you know your Bishop’s wife?

See 1 Timothy 3:1-12


2,300 posted on 10/18/2014 4:09:27 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: af_vet_1981; CynicalBear

So all that pretty blue font. It’s from where, exactly?

Are you passing that off as your own? Or just plagiarizing it?


2,309 posted on 10/18/2014 4:53:07 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Um that didn't do it. There were 12 apostles as there are 12 tribes in Israel. The replacement for Judas was prophesied.

Acts 1:20 for it hath been written in the book of Psalms: Let his lodging-place become desolate, and let no one be dwelling in it, and his oversight let another take.

Nothing in the passage you posted shows succession beyond those twelve.

2,310 posted on 10/18/2014 4:54:08 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: af_vet_1981
Why publish mish-mash of scripture in that manner?

That such herky-jerky combinations are interspersed with instances where you cite scripture more precisely in the way each sentence follows another in the actual text -- makes it all that much the worse when you do not.

And that font -- not fit for a king (despite the name "royal" someone chose to attach to that color) but fit for being passed over and ignored for reason of being difficult to read from a white background.

But I suppose the font may serve well if the aim is to state whatever it is -- but not have any question the way you may be intending for it to be taken to mean.

2,372 posted on 10/18/2014 8:08:33 PM PDT by BlueDragon (whatever blows your skirts up...)
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