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To: CynicalBear
First of all, what's with this church group mentality ? 13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. 14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren. 15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)


Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.


one holy, catholic, and apostolic church





Nondenominational (or non-denominational) Christian institutions are those not formally aligned with an established religious denomination, but are historically Protestant, or that remain otherwise officially autonomous. This, however, does not preclude an identifiable standard among such congregations. Nondenominational church congregations may establish a functional denomination by means of mutual recognition of or accountability to other congregations and leaders with commonly held doctrine, policy and worship without formalizing external direction or oversight in such matters. Some nondenominational churches explicitly reject the idea of a formalized denominational structure as a matter of principle, holding that each congregation is better off being autonomous. A 2012 Gallup survey reported that 10% of U.S. adults identify as non-specific Christian.[1]


Protestant denominations spread and multiplied, especially in the United States, as Denominational confessional statements began to be used more to exclude than to include Christians with different doctrinal convictions.[citation needed] Each denomination maintains to differing degrees some form of organizational and visible unity with its member churches, albeit radically decentralized compared with the Catholic Church. Today, nondenominational churches, like the Independents at the Westminster Assembly, refuse to recognize any ecclesiastical authority above the local congregation and deny the visible unity of the Church (though not the unity of the invisible Church) despite the fact that the original denominations were formed by substantially the same ideology.


. Jonathan A. Mitchican, a traditionalist Anglican priest, has also argued that the term non-denominational is essentially misleading: "If an American church calls itself “non-denominational,” nine times out of ten what that means is Baptist. Altar calls and appeals to personal conversion replace the sacraments as the means of grace. Baptism is a symbol of one’s personal conversion, nothing more, and it is only appropriate for adults", theological positions that are at odds with what Anglicans, and Christians outside of the modern United States, have generally believed.[4]

The only exception to this denominational, sect, group model that I see are the Independent Fundamental Baptists, who hold they are directly descended from the Jewish apostles, indeed even John the Baptist, and who are never ashamed to identify themselves as Baptist. I believe they generally follow the former model of having a fellowship of like minded churches, unlike an extreme and unrepresentative church like Wedtboro. Mars Hill, ( to which you've been assigned), has a group of sister churches, as does Calvary Chapel (perhaps I can arrange a reassignment. :)

2,124 posted on 10/17/2014 7:49:52 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
≥>13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room,<<

Um, yeah, believers get together to pray, worship, and study. How does that translate into proclaiming I belong to the group "I follow Peter" or "I follow Paul"?

Your entire screed (or the screed you cut and pasted without giving source) attempts to assign all to some man made organization with no reference or understanding of what the ekklesia really is. Thank you for proving my point.

2,126 posted on 10/17/2014 8:04:58 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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