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To: af_vet_1981; Resettozero

I am sorry the word “career” offended you. It doesn’t mean anything bad to me. I am even sorrier you totally misunderstood the point I was making. Those problems with Peter are not prejudice, but a fair summary of some of the problems he went through. However, I specifically stated that my “conclusion,” that he was the second worst apostle, was an opinion that should not be defended as coming from Paul’s writings in Ephesians. It was a deliberate demonstration of poor source citation.

But instead of getting my point, you demonstrated it. Which is why the practice is bad. Proposed “integration” indistinctly blended in on the heels of a citation can cause heartburn in well intended readers, and would be roundly castigated if attempted, for example, in a law review comment or article. And its problematic not just for the reader you are talking to, but lurkers and other participants, who should be given a fair chance to sort out a citation and its content. It’s just the right thing to do.

As for what I think of Peter, what matters to me is the grace of God. Paul claimed to be worst of all, yet all the more reason to glorify God for His undeserved gift to us. So when a Protestant points out Peter’s very severe failures, you should understand it is by those weaknesses we feel closest to him, and it is how to best understand the sweetness of spirit he so amply demonstrates in his epistles. The grace of God was mightily displayed in him. Is that now a bad thing to you? It is a wonderful thing to those of us who have walked that same path, and coming to what seemed a dead end, found Jesus waiting with open arms.

So I declare to you that you have greatly misunderstood us. To the extent I have been unclear, please accept my apology. But honestly I think if the environment were not so hostile, you would been able to see what I said in a better light. Speculation, I know. But I can hope.

Peace,

SR


2,123 posted on 10/17/2014 7:18:41 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
So when a Protestant points out Peter’s very severe failures, you should understand it is by those weaknesses we feel closest to him, and it is how to best understand the sweetness of spirit he so amply demonstrates in his epistles.

I read your comments and am not persuaded. I have witnessed a chronic bias against Jacob, Simon Peter, and Miriam/Mary among the Gentiles that we generally tag as Protestants. Catholics, in general, have fallen in love with Simon Peter and Miriam/Mary because of Messiah. They have also turned to Jacob in these latter days.. I see Jacob and Simon Peter on thrones, and Miriam/Mary with a crown. I am not worthy. .

2,125 posted on 10/17/2014 8:02:27 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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