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To: Elsie
"Do the lurkers a favor and please tell them what your church's official teaching is on the phrase, found in the bible, The Dead in Christ.

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Elsie, let me explain something to you about the Catholic faith.    The Catholic Church does not maintain some kind of gigantic reference work, where every single text and phrase in the Bible is fully and precisely explained.    Rather, the Church realizes we are continually getting a deeper appreciation of everything in the written "Word of God".

I would, however, refer the lurkers (and you Elsie) to some sources which will be a big help to all in gaining a better understanding of that text and phrase.

Start here:

   "Catechism of the Catholic Church - ARTICLE 11 'I BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION OF THE BODY'"

and read the whole section (Paragraphs 988-1065), including Paragraph 1001, which references 1 Thessalonians 4:6.

These Bible Commentaries and this book by Taylor Marshall will be a good place to go next, for a deeper understanding of that passage and related ones:

   "The Letters of St. Paul to the Thessalonians, Timothy, and Titus" (with commentary by Scott Hahn and Curtis Mitch)

   "The Navarre Bible: St Paul's Letters to the Thessalonians and Pastoral Letters: Second Edition Paperback – by Faculty of Theology of the University of Navarre"

   "The Catholic Perspective on Paul: Paul and the Origins of Catholic Christianity" - By Taylor Marshall

One final thing: the following text casts light on the separation of the body and soul at death:

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   We are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
   2 Corinthians 5:8

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1,600 posted on 10/14/2014 8:22:47 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Heart-Rest
Rather, the Church realizes we are continually getting a deeper appreciation of everything in the written "Word of God".

2,000 + years and you guys STILL haven't got it nailed down?


1,652 posted on 10/15/2014 6:36:01 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Heart-Rest
One final thing: the following text casts light on the separation of the body and soul at death:




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   We are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
    2 Corinthians 5:8 

What it 'casts light on' is Paul's DESIRE; not necessarily FACTS.

Who are the Dead in Christ and Where are they NOW?

1,654 posted on 10/15/2014 6:39:46 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Heart-Rest; Elsie

Well, why not? There are other commentaries that very thoroughly explain Scripture.

The Catholic church has (allegedly) only had 2,000 years to work on it.

1,961 posted on 10/16/2014 4:12:00 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Heart-Rest; Elsie
Elsie, let me explain something to you about the Catholic faith. The Catholic Church does not maintain some kind of gigantic reference work, where every single text and phrase in the Bible is fully and precisely explained. Rather, the Church realizes we are continually getting a deeper appreciation of everything in the written "Word of God".

Well, why not? There are other commentaries that very thoroughly explain Scripture.

The Catholic church has (allegedly) only had 2,000 years to work on it.

1,962 posted on 10/16/2014 4:12:07 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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