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To: ealgeone
ME, again from post 1143: First: the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts are no longer in existence. So no one can lay claim to having the "original" texts....or as you want to put it the "complete" Bible.

It sees to me you confessed in post 1143 that you do not have the true and accurate inspired scriptures. Your response was that no one else has them either. The Fundamental (Baptist usually goes here) will vehemently disagree with this Evangelical position, and were your position true, there was no accurate translation for Sola Scriptura, and there may not be now, for this position relies not on faith but on scholarship with the premise that no one has the "complete Bible" with every jot and tittle.

The idea that Westcott and Hort have given us the "complete Bible" when no one else had it, is a tough sale.

1,251 posted on 10/12/2014 7:24:31 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; EagleOne
It sees to me you confessed in post 1143 that you do not have the true and accurate inspired scriptures. Your response was that no one else has them either. The Fundamental (Baptist usually goes here) will vehemently disagree with this Evangelical position, and were your position true, there was no accurate translation for Sola Scriptura, and there may not be now, for this position relies not on faith but on scholarship with the premise that no one has the "complete Bible" with every jot and tittle.

It seems to me that you are not reading Eagleone's posts very well. He is NOT saying what you accused him of. He is simply stating that NONE of the original letters of the Apostles survived - whether by Divine design or passage of time on the fragile material they were written on. What we DO have and can have all the confidence in are manuscript COPIES of those originals. We have thousands of fragments, whole books/scrolls, repetition in the writings of early church leaders (enough to basically write the whole NT from them) and copies of Old Testament scrolls going back to hundreds of years before Christ (i.e., Dead Sea scrolls). What Eagleone clearly stated - to me at least - was that nobody has the actual letter written by the hand of Paul or Peter, John, James, Matthew, etc. Personally, I think that's a good thing, seeing as these would probably make certain people worship them as they do other relics.

1,263 posted on 10/12/2014 10:13:40 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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