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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; Elsie
I’m amazed at the SILENCE when Catholics are asked, begged and pleaded with to PLEASE show us just what TRADITIONS they have that are NEEDED for Salvation.

Here's one: The Church possesses the infallible teaching authority given to it by Christ.

"Listen to the church... If he won't listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

OTOH, "the Bible alone is the SOLE rule of faith" isn't in the Bible.

Another Tradition is the canon of Scripture.

The Church has the Christ-given authority to determine the canon of Scripture.

How do Protestants determine the canon of Scripture infallibly?

"The Bible is a fallible collection of infallible books." --R.C. Sproul (Protestant)

1,121 posted on 10/12/2014 1:07:38 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Previously on FR religion thread, I posted the following to two FR defenders of the RCC as the only true church. These two posters are still unavailable for comment. Would you please address this?...

Jesus Christ, His step-father Joseph, His mother Mary, all the Disciples including Peter, and virtually ALL of the first members of the Holy Catholic Church who were present on that particular Day of Pentecost (plus most if not all of the 3000 in Jerusalem who were converted and baptised that day)...were Jews.

Why does the RCC, including the Pontiffs in my lifetime, not support Jews and minister directly to Jews instead of to the enemies of Judah and Israel?

Why is support of the Jews not a significant part of RCC Holy Tradition?


1,122 posted on 10/12/2014 1:20:39 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Here's one: The Church possesses the infallible teaching authority given to it by Christ.

"Listen to the church... If he won't listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

Ah, still posting this verse, wrested from its rightful context of the LOCAL church arbitrating between two believers involved in a dispute. As such, it doesn't say anything about tradition.

OTOH, "the Bible alone is the SOLE rule of faith" isn't in the Bible.

Scripture alone testifies of itself that it is inspired by God and sufficient for teaching, reproof and correction to mature believers. Scripture itself testifies it feeds the soul. There is no other source testified to by Scripture. Why would anyone accept anything less than what God's Spirit moved men to write as the final rule of faith?

Another Tradition is the canon of Scripture.

The Church has the Christ-given authority to determine the canon of Scripture.

Well, not anywhere in Scripture did Christ give authority to determine the canon.

How do Protestants determine the canon of Scripture infallibly?

"The Bible is a fallible collection of infallible books." --R.C. Sproul (Protestant)

I don't always agree with Sproul, but in this instance, he is correct. God has worked in history, through men to identify Scripture. Sometimes men make mistakes. Just look at what had to be removed from the canon.

1,125 posted on 10/12/2014 1:44:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I’m amazed at the SILENCE when Catholics are asked, begged and pleaded with to PLEASE show us just what TRADITIONS they have that are NEEDED for Salvation.

More empty talk.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8zyF0ZOy3k

Show Us!

1,281 posted on 10/13/2014 3:58:51 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
How do Protestants determine the canon of Scripture infallibly?

I would imagine that ANYONE who wishes, can go back to the oldest EVIDENCE that humankind has access to, and re-open the case!

1,282 posted on 10/13/2014 4:01:18 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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