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Why would anyone become Catholic?
https://www.indiegogo.com ^ | October 2, 2014 | Indiegogo

Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Why would intelligent, successful people give up their careers, alienate their friends, and cause havoc in their families...to become Catholic? Indeed, why would anyone become Catholic?

As an evangelist and author who recently threw my own life into some turmoil by deciding to enter the Catholic Church, I've faced this question a lot lately. That is one reason I decided to make this documentary; it's part of my attempt to try to explain to those closest to me why I would do such a crazy thing.

Convinced isn't just about me, though. The film is built around interviews with some of the most articulate and compelling Catholic converts in our culture today, including Scott Hahn, Francis Beckwith, Taylor Marshall, Holly Ordway, Abby Johnson, Jeff Cavins, Devin Rose, Matthew Leonard, Mark Regnerus, Jason Stellman, John Bergsma, Christian Smith, Kevin Vost, David Currie, Richard Cole, and Kenneth Howell. It also contains special appearances by experts in the field of conversion such as Patrick Madrid and Donald Asci.

Ultimately, this is a story about finding truth, beauty, and fulfillment in an unexpected place, and then sacrificing to grab on to it. I think it will entertain and inspire you, and perhaps even give you a fresh perspective on an old faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at indiegogo.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; willconvertforfood
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To: Resettozero
Posting this is LC at his finest!

Some might whine: BADGERING!!!

1,341 posted on 10/13/2014 6:28:26 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Honey; don’t care.


1,342 posted on 10/13/2014 6:39:20 AM PDT by BlueDragon (if a sarcasm tag is needed here, that more proof it's all a conspiracy)
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To: JPX2011; metmom
>>If that were the case then why do protestants believe that they must atone for their sins<<

Where did you ever get that? No true follower of Christ would believe that. Christ atoned for all of our sins.

1,343 posted on 10/13/2014 6:46:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Elsie
Kubota lovers unite!

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1,344 posted on 10/13/2014 6:47:55 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; boatbums
>>they did not take up arms even to defend their families and congregations.<<

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Those were probably for cutting their meat at the dinner table?

1,345 posted on 10/13/2014 7:00:06 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: CynicalBear
Tell me where they took up arms to defend their families and congregations. The Christian posse rode out to stop Saul of Tarsus,? Or to save Stephen? Or James? Or anybody, in the first 300 years of the Church?

I'm not making a pacifist argument here. I am not a pacifist and I do not defend that position. I'm just saying historically, Christians in the pre-Constantine centuries didn't defend their families and congregations with force of arms. If you think that's disturbing, you're surely not the only one.

The passage you cite certainly is not about armed defense. They said "Here are two swords" and He said "Enough!"

1,346 posted on 10/13/2014 7:06:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>The passage you cite certainly is not about armed defense. <<

Oh really? What was Peter doing carrying a sword?

John 18:10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.

Why does the Vatican have guards?

1,347 posted on 10/13/2014 7:23:43 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: CynicalBear

Uh, I’m not Catholic but the high priest in this case was Jewish.


1,348 posted on 10/13/2014 7:26:07 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: CynicalBear
As I said I am not arguing for pacifism. If Jesus thought the two swords were "enough" (really? for the defense of 12 men?) it's clearly not for the defense of 12 men!! They were needed, as He explained, for symbolic purposes, for prophecy to be fulfilled:

Luke 22:36-38

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That’s enough!” he replied.

And if it was for defense, why did Jesus within minutes disarm Peter, when he tried using the sword for defense?

Like I said, I'm not a pacifist and I'm not defending pacifism. I'm just telling you what's there. The NT record and the historic record do not show one instance of a Christian community arming itself for defense despite 300 years of violent persecution directed against their homes, their families and their congregations.

1,349 posted on 10/13/2014 7:36:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Elsie

You back up your statements with Biblical verses. Thank you so much. I never knew Catholics had such little use for God’s Word. They keep repeating they gave people the Bible, but seem to have little use for it. God bless. Some of the things they post are unbelievable.


1,350 posted on 10/13/2014 8:04:57 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>And if it was for defense, why did Jesus within minutes disarm Peter, when he tried using the sword for defense?<<

Jesus explained that. He said: "Put the sword into the sheath; the cup which the Father has given Me, shall I not drink it?" He knew it was time.

1,351 posted on 10/13/2014 8:07:44 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Springfield Reformer

You made a great point they were not able to refute because you got an inane image.

I find it ironic that a Catholic would tell you to stop throwing your pearls before swine.


1,352 posted on 10/13/2014 8:17:50 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CynicalBear
Yes. But the two swords didn't get used to protect Stephen, or James, or any of the rest of the martyrs--- and their homes and families. There is no further use of the sword for defense in the Gospels or Acts or the Epistles.

Without exception, they did what Christ said: "Put down the sword" and "Take up the cross".

1,353 posted on 10/13/2014 8:18:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Elsie

The last Johnstone book, “Stand your Ground” is about terrorists taking over a Texas town. It is the first in another series. Let me know if you find them and how you like them. They are stand alone books but I like to read them in order.


1,354 posted on 10/13/2014 8:18:58 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: Elsie
Here's the latest!


1,355 posted on 10/13/2014 8:20:15 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Springfield Reformer; aMorePerfectUnion

ping to post 966 for a discussion of Greek.


1,356 posted on 10/13/2014 8:21:10 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

They didn’t get involved or even concern themselves with politics or defending their country either. Nor did any of them any longer establish businesses or be gainfully imployed.


1,357 posted on 10/13/2014 8:22:10 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: CynicalBear
Right you are : that's a NT Church model, all right. We can both see that.

Bu it's one that didn't persist for 300 years. It was almost univerally rejected by Christians, except for monastics.

The rejection of the sword for defense, however, did persist in the Christian community for 300 years, until the Age of Constantine. And after 300 years, too, by monastics.

1,358 posted on 10/13/2014 8:43:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Utah Binger

Man; what I could do with a machine like that around my place!!


1,359 posted on 10/13/2014 10:22:47 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MamaB
You back up your statements with Biblical verses.

Of course!

My opinions and proud spouting carry NO weight and are easily swatted down.

1,360 posted on 10/13/2014 10:24:31 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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