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To: verga; CynicalBear; boatbums; ifinnegan
Well we have two people that have made the claim that they were Catholic at one time, let's ask them. Metmom and Boatbums; Have either of you two eve worshiped Mary as God or even god, have you ever believed her to be divine? Simple yes or no will suffice.

Two problems.

First off, this is clearly a change the subject tactic.

The second is, even if either of us should answer *No*, it proves nothing. CB's question was simply asking if we should judge by actions or words. And it doesn't address the issue because ALL Catholics worldwide would need to be queried. Two former Catholics answering no could not be considered representative of the entire body of Catholicism.

163 posted on 10/04/2014 5:10:47 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; verga; CynicalBear; boatbums; ifinnegan

>>Do Catholics give her worship that is due to God alone?<<

Illiterates, idiots and liars claim that. They are wrong.


164 posted on 10/04/2014 5:11:48 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: metmom
ZThe second is, even if either of us should answer *No*, it proves nothing. CB's question was simply asking if we should judge by actions or words. And it doesn't address the issue because ALL Catholics worldwide would need to be queried. Two former Catholics answering no could not be considered representative of the entire body of Catholicism.

Well then since you seem to be afraid to answer that, how about these: Were you ever taught that Mary was God or even god? Were you ever taught that she was divine in any way? Were you ever taught that she was due worship?

Simple yes or no.

I am betting that you either dodge or obfuscate?

226 posted on 10/04/2014 7:44:00 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: metmom

Exactly! We already know the question was asked dishonestly because if we said, yes, we would be called liars or “poorly catechized”. If we answered no, we would be told, “See, we don’t, case closed!”. Some Catholics show a surprising lack of integrity and it comes out in how they speak to others.


256 posted on 10/04/2014 8:41:50 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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