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To: annalex; BlueDragon
they didn't "throw out" the Maccabean and other writings at that time

Why is it relevant what the deniers of Christ did or didn't?

Isn't it relevant that Jesus Christ as well as the Apostle Paul, in the first century, STILL considered the Jews as being given the "oracles of God"? How is it that you can denigrate that today when even Jerome in the fifth century as well as many other early church fathers respected their canon? What gives Roman Catholics the right to include these books as equal in authority to the Divinely-inspired books Jesus and the Apostles used to verify their message - especially since the writers of the Apocryphal books NEVER claim to be writing the word of God?

135 posted on 10/04/2014 4:29:34 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; BlueDragon
Prior to their rejection of Christ the Jews read the Septuagint, that is, the Deuterocanon as well as the Hebrew canon. For example, St. Paul writes:

because from thy infancy thou hast known the holy scriptures, which can instruct thee to salvation, by the faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work. (2 Timothy 3:15-17)

Observe: the Old Testament "can instruct thee to salvation" so long as it is seen through the eye of faith in Christ. How an adherent of Judaism reads the Holy Scripture and what part of it he likes or dislikes is useless information. Observe also: "all scripture" known to Timothy since his youth. Timothy was a native of Lystra and his father was Greek, a strong indication that his exposure to scripture was through Septuagint and therefore "all" in St. Paul's writing is a reference to the complete Catholic Canon, not to the Protestant redaction.

So that is the relevant part of the Jewish religion: one that lead to the conversion of Paul, Timothy and his parents, and very many others.

What the unconverted Jews did AFTER the rejection and murder of Christ is irrelevant completely; in fact if they did something after Christianity emerged as one true religion, we should probably do the opposite.

152 posted on 10/04/2014 5:00:43 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: boatbums; annalex
Good questions, bb.

How many times must we go over this stuff?

Oh, pick me, pick me teacher, I know!

About every third time or so some FRoman or another tries to again raise the issue -- and in initial replies has their head handed to them (figuratively speaking -- on logical/factual argument basis) then others pile in to once again attempt to save the apologetic which is wielded as some form of weapon.

Should I offer popcorn?

Or in sober consideration of what else Christianity is facing nowadays in secular realm and in regards to Islam -- turn to the Marko Ramius (Sean Connery) quote from Red October;


195 posted on 10/04/2014 6:50:01 PM PDT by BlueDragon (...they murdered some of them bums...for thinking wrong thoughts)
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