Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer
This. Why are you trying to make this about me?
This. Why are you trying to make this about me?
This. Why are you trying to make this about me?
Me - You sound exactly like a cetain serpent in a garden. Go back and read your questions and my answers. You asked if the church taught Mary was God or even a god.
Narses - You sound EXACTLY like a CERTAIN SERPENT in a garden. Seems a bit over the line, no?
Narses - Making things personal, like claiming I am exactly like Satan would be against the rules. But you knew that, right?
Me - Did someone truly state You are exactly like Satan with those exact words, Narses?
Narses - Still trying to make this about me instead of admitting you cannot answer yes to that simple question? Why?
I said you “sounded” like the serpent. So when did it become “You are exaclty like...?” I followed the thread and you seem to claim people are posting things they haven't posted in an attempt to have them suspended and/or banned.
Following your “creative quoting” on this thread doesn't support your complaint.
I won't “mind-read” so I've got to ask, why would you do this? Initially, I commented that your line of questioning shared traits of Satan's discourse with Eve, an observation which was arguably accurate.
RM - If I was out of line it was not intentional. I'll leave you to judge Narses.
See 501 and 503. Please advise.
Initially, I commented that your line of questioning shared traits of Satan's discourse with Eve, an observation which was arguably accurate.
Nope.
You said, and I quote:
"You sound EXACTLY like a CERTAIN SERPENT in a garden."
Sure it does. God is God. Mary is NOT God. See?
Then simply post -
Jesus is sufficient for Salvation. I, Narses, do not need a co-redemtrix. Jesus is all I need to enter Heaven.
Sure it does. God is God. Mary is NOT God. See?
Then simply post -
I was never taught Mary is God.
Is it taught that Mary is the Co-redemtrix of the universe?
This. Why are you trying to make this about me?
Do you understand the concept of not making things PERSONAL???
"You said, and I quote:
'You sound EXACTLY like a CERTAIN SERPENT in a garden.'"
Later, you pinged the RM saying -
Making things personal, like claiming I am exactly like Satan would be against the rules. But you knew that, right?
Why not take a week off to get your story straight.
At no time did I say you were "exactly like Satan."
RM - Narses appears to be provoking others in an attempt to get them banned. Is it "over the line" for me to point out behavior?
Narses - Give it a rest. Anyone can go back and read our posts and come to the same conclusion. It's embarassing!
Copy and paste the text below or I'll simply assume you don't see Jesus as sufficient. Do you really want to deny Him before the Earth? I wager you won't do it.
Jesus is sufficient for Salvation. I, Narses, do not need a co-redemtrix. Jesus is all I need to enter Heaven.
Here is something that Luther actually said.
Be they called holy, learned, fathers, councils, or any other name, even though they were Mary, Joseph and all the saints it does not follow that they could not have erred and made mistakes. For here you learn that the mother of Christ though she possessed great intelligence and enlightenment, showed great ignorance in that she did not know where to find Christ, and in consequence was censured by him because she did not know what she should have known. If she failed and through her ignorance was brought to such anxiety and sorrow that she thought she had lost Christ, is it a wonder that other saints should often have erred and stumbled, when they followed their own notions, without the guidance of Scripture, or put their own notions into Scripture.
Here is an actual quote, not Papist fantasy and misrepresentation.
Which is the key in everything here.
It's amazing how many college and seminary trained so-called *intellectuals* have such an abysmal knowledge and grasp of Scripture.
They've educated themselves into spiritual imbecility and blindness.
Will you deny Jesus is sufficient? Weren’t you taught about “Sins of Ommission?”
What happens if you deny Christ? Jesus paid for your sins and the sins of all. If you deny Him you deny His gift of salvation.
Mary will not save you.
It took some research and “trial and error” but I figured out how to do italics!
Cool, right?
I have noticed how this thread is escalating in the vehemence against the non-Catholics here.
The tactic that I see at work here is that the FRoman Catholics are taking a beating and are now pushing the RF guidelines, hoping to get the thread locked of pulled for *flame war* or *childish behavior*.
Happens all the time when they’ve losing badly.
Keep up the good work. Wise as serpents, innocent as doves.
Just don’t nosedive to their level of debate.
I’ve gone to using an html editor for my posts, especially the bigger ones. Saves a lot of time and gives you full visual control. Color, bolding, block quotes, italics, links, images, etc. But I don’t do photo-shopped cereal boxes. So many reasons not to ... :)
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