Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”

Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

[metmom]

bb:I don't feel badly at all throwing your errors back at you. Do you understand that when Jesus said, "It is finished.", he was speaking of making complete propitiation for the sins of the world?

verga:Before saying ridiculous things like this you need to poll the rest of the prot posse. Because that is word for word what they have said previously.

Do tell then. Just what did Jesus mean by *It is finished* if not the work of salvation for mankind? What was finished?

[CynicalBear]

>>Keep your traditions, rituals and man made-Pharisitical laws. I'll follow Jesus.<<

Amen and Amen!!

[verga]

I noticed you never answered about the meaning of the prefix “co.” That is okay Christians know what it means.

[metmom]

Based on how Catholics are obsessed with suffering and how God wants us to suffer and how we are to offer up our suffering to Him for whatever reason it is that none of them can ever make clear, their God is a cruel God.

[boatbums]

Don’t have a wife. Do you?

[editor-surveyor]

>> ““all scripture” means all scripture known to hellenized Jews at the time.” <<

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There have never been any “helenized” Jews living in the land of Caanan.

There were Greek speaking Jews in Egypt, and in the Greek isles, but that was simply because it was the majority language in those locations at the time. That has never been true of Caanan, as you can easily determine by reading the first two books of the Maccabees.

All things Greek were hated and rejected by Judah, even unto death.
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[verga]

Do tell then. Just what did Jesus mean by *It is finished* if not the work of salvation for mankind? What was finished? P>Please feel free to repost the ridiculous claims you made previously. I wouldn't want to give you the chance to whine about cross posting.

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

Thanks for your kind words. Some times if feels like we’re throwing bricks into the grand canyon...

[editor-surveyor]

>> “Do you deny the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John?” <<

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Vlad is just shoving standard catholic agitprop at us.
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[CynicalBear]

The duplicity of Catholic thought is stunning.

[metmom]

I'm still waiting for someone to find something about "worshipping Mary" in the Catechism.

Actions speak louder than words and talk is cheap.

Probably the only reason that the RCC leaves all that in the CCC is to that when challenged, they can deny the patently obvious by stating that it's not part of their official belief system because it's *not in the catechism*.

It's an easy out to deny on a technicality what everyone sees them do in practice.

God cares about what we DO more than what we SAY.

[metmom]

Because we can red the Bible. You might consider trying that some time.

My Bible already has red in it.

All the words of Jesus are printed in red.

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

Which could only be due to their lack of understanding of wherein James Faith was based.

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If someone is truly saved they will have the Spirit of God. Then their works will demonstrate they are filled with the Spirit by their fruit.

Galatians 5:22-23

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

[metmom]

Luke 18:9-14 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’

But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

[editor-surveyor]

>> “I’m still waiting for someone to find something about “worshiping Mary” in the Catechism.” <<

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Freerepublic is still waiting for evidence of catholics that actually live by the catechism!
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[metmom]

This is what the RCC thinks about Mary.

From the Catechism of the Catholic church....

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm

969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”510

Names of God from the Bible. Compare them to the names given to Mary in the above prayer.

Jesus

Hope (our) - 1 Timothy 1:1

Counselor - Isaiah 9:6

Advocate - 1 John 2:1

Mediator - 1 Timothy 2:5, Hebrews 9:15, Hebrews 12:24

Holy Spirit

Comforter - John 14:26

Helper – John 14:16

This is worship of Mary if ever there was.....Attributing to her the attributes of God is idolatry.

[metmom]

I didn’t think you could answer.

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

Based on how Catholics are obsessed with suffering and how God wants us to suffer and how we are to offer up our suffering to Him for whatever reason it is that none of them can ever make clear, their God is a cruel God.

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I recall reading in “Pilgrim’s Progress” about people not being able to “get past” the cross. Once “Christian” made it past the cross his “burden” fell from his back.

They don’t feel worthy of His sacrifice, and they’re not. He didn’t take on our sins and punishment because “we’re worthy,” He did it because He’s awesome and He loves us even though we aren’t particularly lovable.

The biggest insult to Jesus is the belief we need further “purging” to remove our sinful nature so we are “purified.” It’s like someone has prepared the most incredible feast and you bring along a pizza because “that’s great but it’s not enough to get the job done.”