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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^
| October 3, 2014
| RICHARD BECKER
Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer
“Stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught,
either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
~ St. Paul to the Thessalonians
A former student of mine is thinking of becoming a Catholic, and she had a question for me. I dont understand the deuterocanonical books, she ventured. If the Catholic faith is supposed to be a fulfillment of the Jewish faith, why do Catholics accept those books and the Jews dont? Shed done her homework, and was troubled that the seven books and other writings of the deuterocanon had been preserved only in Greek instead of Hebrew like the rest of the Jewish scriptureswhich is part of the reason why they were classified, even by Catholics, as a second (deutero) canon.
My student went on. Im just struggling because there are a lot of references to those books in Church doctrine, but they arent considered inspired Scripture. Why did Luther feel those books needed to be taken out? she asked. And why are Protestants so against them?
The short answer sounds petty and mean, but its true nonetheless: Luther jettisoned those extra Old Testament booksTobit, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and the likebecause they were inconvenient. The Apocrypha (or, false writings), as they came to be known, supported pesky Catholic doctrines that Luther and other reformers wanted to suppresspraying for the dead, for instance, and the intercession of the saints. Heres John Calvin on the subject:
Add to this, that they provide themselves with new supports when they give full authority to the Apocryphal books. Out of the second of the Maccabees they will prove Purgatory and the worship of saints; out of Tobit satisfactions, exorcisms, and what not. From Ecclesiasticus they will borrow not a little. For from whence could they better draw their dregs?
However, the deuterocanonical literature was (and is) prominent in the liturgy and very familiar to that first generation of Protestant converts, so Luther and company couldnt very well ignore it altogether. Consequently, those seven apocryphal books, along with the Greek portions of Esther and Daniel, were relegated to an appendix in early Protestant translations of the Bible.
Eventually, in the nineteenth century sometime, many Protestant Bible publishers starting dropping the appendix altogether, and the modern translations used by most evangelicals today dont even reference the Apocrypha at all. Thus, the myth is perpetuated that nefarious popes and bishops have gotten away with brazenly foisting a bunch of bogus scripture on the ignorant Catholic masses.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
To begin with, it was Luther and Calvin and the other reformers who did all the foisting. The Old Testament that Christians had been using for 1,500 years had always included the so-called Apocrypha, and there was never a question as to its canonicity. Thus, by selectively editing and streamlining their own versions of the Bible according to their sectarian biases (including, in Luthers case, both Testaments, Old and New), the reformers engaged in a theological con game. To make matters worse, they covered their tracks by pointing fingers at the Catholic Church for adding phony texts to the closed canon of Hebrew Sacred Writ.
In this sense, the reformers were anticipating what I call the Twain-Jefferson approach to canonical revisionism. It involves two simple steps.
- Step one: Identify the parts of Scripture that you find especially onerous or troublesome. Generally, these will be straightforward biblical references that dont quite square with the doctrine one is championing or the practices one has already embraced. Mark Twain is the modern herald of this half of creative textual reconstruction: It aint those parts of the Bible that I cant understand that bother me, Twain wrote, it is the parts that I do understand.
- Step two: Yank the vexing parts out. Its what Thomas Jefferson literally did when he took his own Bible and cut out the passages he found offensivea kind of scripture by subtraction in the words of religion professor Stephen Prothero.
The reformers justified their Twain-Jefferson humbug by pointing to the canon of scriptures in use by European Jews during that time, and it did not include those extra Catholic bookscase closed! Still unconvinced? Todays defenders of the reformers biblical reshaping will then proceed to throw around historical precedent and references to the first-century Council of Jamnia, but its all really smoke and mirrors.
The fact is that the first-century Jewish canon was pretty mutable and there was no universal definitive list of sacred texts. On the other hand, it is indisputable that the version being used by Jesus and the Apostles during that time was the Septuagintthe Greek version of the Hebrew scriptures that included Luthers rejected apocryphal books. SCORE: Deuterocanon 1; Twain-Jefferson Revisionism 0.
But this is all beside the point. Its like an argument about creationism vs. evolution that gets funneled in the direction of whether dinosaurs couldve been on board Noahs Ark. Once youre arguing about that, youre no longer arguing about the bigger issue of the historicity of those early chapters in Genesis. The parallel red herring here is arguing over the content of the Christian Old Testament canon instead of considering the nature of authority itself and how its supposed to work in the Church, especially with regards to the Bible.
I mean, even if we can settle what the canon should include, we dont have the autographs (original documents) from any biblical books anyway. While we affirm the Churchs teaching that all Scripture is inspired and teaches solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings (DV 11), there are no absolutes when it comes to the precise content of the Bible.
Can there be any doubt that this is by Gods design? Without the autographs, we are much less tempted to worship a static book instead of the One it reveals to us. Even so, its true that we are still encouraged to venerate the Scriptures, but we worship the incarnate Wordand we ought not confuse the two. John the Baptist said as much when he painstakingly distinguished between himself, the announcer, and the actual Christ he was announcing. The Catechism, quoting St. Bernard, offers a further helpful distinction:
The Christian faith is not a religion of the book. Christianity is the religion of the Word of God, a word which is not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living.
Anyway, with regards to authority and the canon of Scripture, Mark Shea couldnt have put it more succinctly than his recent response to a request for a summary of why the deuterocanon should be included in the Bible:
Because the Church in union with Peter, the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15) granted authority by Christ to loose and bind (Matthew 16:19), says they should be.
Right. The Church says so, and thats good enough.
For its the Church who gives us the Scriptures. Its the Church who preserves the Scriptures and tells us to turn to them. Its the Church who bathes us in the Scriptures with the liturgy, day in and day out, constantly watering our souls with Gods Word. Isnt it a bit bizarre to be challenging the Church with regards to which Scriptures shes feeding us with? No, mother, the infant cries, not breast milk! I want Ovaltine! Better yet, how about some Sprite!
Think of it this way. My daughter Margaret and I share an intense devotion to Betty Smiths remarkable novel, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. Its a bittersweet family tale of impoverishment, tragedy, and perseverance, and we often remark how curious it is that Smiths epic story receives so little attention.
I was rooting around the sale shelf at the public library one day, and I happened upon a paperback with the name Betty Smith on the spine. I took a closer look: Joy in the Morning, a 1963 novel of romance and the struggles of newlyweds, and it was indeed by the same Smith of Tree fame. I snatched it up for Meg.
The other day, Meg thanked me for the book, and asked me to be on the lookout for others by Smith. It wasnt nearly as good as Tree, she said, and I dont expect any of her others to be as good. But I want to read everything she wrote because Tree was so wonderful.
See, she wants to get to know Betty Smith because of what she encountered in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. And all we have are her books and other writings; Betty Smith herself is gone.
But Jesus isnt like that. We have the book, yes, but we have more. We still have the Word himself.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; calvin; christians; herewegoagain; luther
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To: annalex
Genesis 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. 13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. 14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel." God consistently refers to the woman as Eve but Catholics would have us believe God switched? Please.
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posted on
10/10/2014 7:21:49 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
To: annalex
The point was that the promise involves Mary in the context.It plainly does not.
The context WAS posted and you avoided it completely.
Learn to read and comprehend the matter read.
1,022
posted on
10/10/2014 7:29:50 PM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: annalex
That is Marys presence in the context. No; it is not.
You saying it over and over what you've been convinced of is not convincing anyone else.
1,023
posted on
10/10/2014 7:31:11 PM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: annalex
It is a good idea to read the Holy Bible every once in a while.It would be better to take some remedial English classes.
1,024
posted on
10/10/2014 7:31:42 PM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: CynicalBear
God consistently refers to the woman as Eve but Catholics would have us believe God switched? Please.
1,025
posted on
10/10/2014 7:35:04 PM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
It’s stunning. And they post as if no one is actually going to “search the scriptures” to see if what they say is true. It amazes me that someone would just blindly follow.
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posted on
10/10/2014 8:07:23 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
To: CynicalBear
Those people just happen to be members of the One Holy Catholic Church here and in heaven.
1,027
posted on
10/10/2014 8:12:15 PM PDT
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: CynicalBear
You would have us believe that all men, since they are Eve’s descendants are Jesus Christ and crush Satan?
1,028
posted on
10/10/2014 8:13:29 PM PDT
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: Elsie
You too think that Eve’s descendants defeat Satan?
1,029
posted on
10/10/2014 8:14:59 PM PDT
by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: annalex
>>Those people just happen to be members of the One Holy Catholic Church here and in heaven.<<
Or so Catholics have been deceived to believe.
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posted on
10/10/2014 8:23:15 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
To: annalex
That was really lame. Sad actually.
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posted on
10/10/2014 8:24:39 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
To: annalex
Beckwith does acknowledge a gradual interest in the deuterocanonicals among Christian writers, but this actually supports his conclusion that the "wider Alexandrian canon," as he calls it was a Christian, and not a Jewish development. The evidence drawn from the various canonical debates of the Jewish period do not revolve around the deuterocanonicals, but books we would both regard as securely canonical, namely Ruth, Song of Solomon, and Esther. This is the canon that would be relevant to Timothy's Bible.
As for bias, there could be no testimony at all in this subject matter if every expert witness was required to have no personal affiliation with a religion. Bias in this case must be found, if at all, in the approach the scholar takes to evidence. Not that he must agree with our conclusions to avoid a charge of bias, but that he must demonstrate reasonable consideration of the available evidence and logical, consistent analysis of the data. After that, if he's got valid credentials and a good reputation among his peers as an expert in his field, his opinion can be presented, even if his conclusions are disagreeable to us. At that point, to discredit him would require other expert testimony shown in some way to be superior, better evidence, better analysis, etc. But a decisive expert opinion is not bias, and would not, by itself, discredit his testimony.
Peace,
SR
To: annalex
It is often the case that we read something in the scripture and not fully know the context; yet we obey the scripture as written, including admitting that if some detail is not provided then it is not necessary. The exact composition of the scripture is not given by St. Paul, but the qualification known to thee since infancy is given. Therefore, however imprecise the composition of the Septuagint was copy to copy (remember, they were not physically one object as modern books are), what was important to st. Paul is that the Septuagint is inspired in any of its configurations. Paul WAS quite specific with Timothy concerning Scripture when he said:
That from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. (2 timothy 3:15-17)
What OTHER sacred writings do we have that were "inspired by God", that Timothy could have know "since infancy" and can give one the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith in Jesus Christ? Even Peter clarified that the Scripture they both meant was that which, "never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:21). Though there is question whether Timothy learned the Scriptures from the Hebrew or the Greek Septuagint, Paul clearly is speaking of ONLY that which was God-breathed, sacred Scripture. Like I've said already, if some wish to believe God breathed the words of the Apocrypha, they will have to explain how the Holy Spirit could have possibly made so many mistakes and contradicted Himself like these books often did.
The issue of canon of the Old Testament did not concern the Church till about 3rd century. we see some fathers approve of the Deuterocanon and others disapprove. Prior to that, the Church was mostly concerned with the provenance and authenticity of the New Testament books. When the Church concerned herself with this issue, she worked out the canon by the early 5 c. The Council of Carthage is evidence that the matter was settled.
The church was mainly concerned with spreading the gospel and leading souls to saving faith in Jesus Christ. The local churches received the letters of the Apostles and their disciples, copied them, read them, learned them and obeyed them based on the authority of the Apostles of Jesus Christ. That was all they needed to know and, because these words were Holy Spirit inspired, their power to change lives and raise up Godly men to carry on the teachings was evidence that they indeed came from God.
I had hoped by now, after so many times this contention has been dismantled, that it wouldn't be brought up again - and in the same thread, yet - but we already have proof that these "councils" did no such thing. We already know it was STILL being contested into Trent and that was a thousand years AFTER Carthage. If Roman Catholics want to assert the Apocrypha were read by some in the early church, I won't argue. But, if they want to assert these books were placed with the sacred Scriptures of the Old Testament along with those that made up the New Testament, and called the Christian "canon" (which means "rule of faith", BTW), and then insist this conferred those books as ALL God-breathed Scripture and every Christian MUST accept them that way, then we have a problem. I respect the word of God too much to believe humanly devised myths, fables and legends deserve equal consideration.
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posted on
10/10/2014 9:42:14 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
To: annalex
Just reread your post and noted your agreement on the question of bias. Tired reader syndrome. No intent to be argumentative in my further statements on bias. Going to bed now ...
To: annalex
You too think that Eves descendants defeat Satan?Isn't EVERYONE 'descended' from Eve; The Mother of ALL Living?
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posted on
10/11/2014 4:50:51 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: annalex; Elsie
Genesis 3:15 speaks of the seed of the woman crushing the head of the serpent. That is Marys presence in the context. No it isn't. It's speaking of Eve. Jesus is her seed as well as Mary's. It's quite a stretch to say that this scripture is "Marys presence in the context."
In the context, it is Eve.
I under stand why the Catholic religion has to see Mary there, but it just isn't so.
It is a good idea to read the Holy Bible every once in a while.
I would suggest that you increase your frequency of Bible reading. And pray the Holy Spirit shows you what it means.
If you are using a Catholic version, compare to the Greek and Hebrew for clarification of scriptures that are difficult for you to understand correctly.
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posted on
10/11/2014 8:27:15 AM PDT
by
Syncro
(The Body of Christ [His church]: Made up of every born again Christian. Source--Jesus in the Bible)
To: annalex; Syncro; Elsie; CynicalBear
Do you mind telling us how this prophetic crushing of the seed of the woman’s head is supposed to work out in real time? Is it Mary who is the prophesied great warrior from heaven who is to defeat the antichrist and his armies at Armageddon? Mary is to do this instead of Christ?
Was she wounded in her heel grappling with the seed of the serpent at the first advent? (We Protestants believe this depicts Christ at the first advent)
To: sasportas
Correction:
Do you mind telling us how this prophetic crushing of the seed of the serpents head is supposed to work out in real time?
The head crushed is the seed of the serpent, not the seed of the woman. The picture to our mind, is the seed of the woman grappling with the seed of the serpent. To kill a snake, you go for the head.
To: sasportas
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posted on
10/11/2014 3:50:06 PM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: boatbums
I’m sure paul was very intelligent, but I am dumb and your long post made my eyes gaze over...
I tend to be like Peter who complains he doesn’t always understand Paul’s writings but says you should read them anyway.
However, Jesus tended to teach by using stories, and he is a bit more nuanced in how you are saved. In one verse, he says you are saved if you believe in him. In another, he notes that saying Lord Lord isn’t enough, and in a third one he notes that at the last judgement, some who get to heaven don’t recognize him, but are admitted because he accepts their deeds to the poor as serving Him.
Try reading and praying over the gospels, not taking a verse of Paul out of context and making it the entire truth.
we are saved by grace, but as Paul said: by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace in me has not been fruitless.
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posted on
10/11/2014 9:04:11 PM PDT
by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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