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1 posted on 09/27/2014 1:46:14 PM PDT by NYer
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Closer to home, Obamacare Architect Says Society Would Be Better Off If People Died At 75

Totally misguided, ping!

2 posted on 09/27/2014 1:46:37 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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One thing I don't like about the movie Notebook, an otherwise pretty good movie.
3 posted on 09/27/2014 1:51:21 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate over unjust law & government in the forum of ideas)
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Life used to be slower paced.

There was a time when people were patient enough to wait to die of old age, this go-go-go obsession with being proactive, is going too far for my tastes.


4 posted on 09/27/2014 1:51:25 PM PDT by ansel12
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The decision to end one’s life is between the individual and God.

Anyone else who gets involved without being invited to the discussion, including and especially the State, is an interfering busybody.


5 posted on 09/27/2014 1:51:28 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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Euthanasia/Suicide crowd beating the drums of acceptance again. It’s not hard to find a few elderly folks who are delusional, fearful, early Alzheimers or have screws loose to be the poster child for these movement(s). Given their first names, I’d assume they’re Christian; nice to see how well the Judeo-Christian ethic regarding caring for others, heck, the 10 Commandments, having respect for your parents, took root in their offspring. Selfish jerks. When the shoe’s on the other foot, we’ll see how much they’re own children care...years down the road. Tragic.


6 posted on 09/27/2014 1:52:12 PM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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Belgium, you have a problem.


7 posted on 09/27/2014 1:52:28 PM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody was going to say it. Why not me?)
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They are also afraid that a good retirement home would cost more than their combined pensions and that they would have to dig into their savings to afford it.

then for what are they saving their savings?

11 posted on 09/27/2014 1:59:19 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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they have the support of their three adult children who say they would be unable to care for either parent if they became widowed.

Hmmm ...

They are also afraid that a good retirement home would cost more than their combined pensions and that they would have to dig into their savings to afford it.

What is the point of having savings then?

we are afraid of what lies ahead

They have plenty to fear if they go through with this.

15 posted on 09/27/2014 2:05:12 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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Well, is there insurance money involved, and who collects?


27 posted on 09/27/2014 2:32:26 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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My favorite aunt died last November, one month before she was to turn 100. She had lost her husband 40 years before. She had the sweetest nature and was the most Christian person I have ever known, in every sense of the word. She never gossiped. She loved Jesus and pinned to be able to see Him. She had macular degeneration and was very hard of hearing, so she could not spend the last few years of her life watching TV or reading the Bible. She taught us all what it meant to be a good person, even when her memory was failing. As we heard her pine for Jesus we got to see a real saint.


28 posted on 09/27/2014 2:35:03 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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An elderly husband and wife have announced their plans to die in the world’s first ‘couple’ euthanasia – despite neither of them being terminally ill.

I think not. It's usually called a "murder-suicide".

they have the support of their three adult children who say they would be unable to care for either parent if they became widowed.

A proper response is unprintable.

The children have even gone so far as to find a practitioner willing to carry out the double killings on the grounds that the couple’s mental anguish constituted the unbearable suffering needed to legally justify euthanasia.

God save me from children like these.

Francis has received treatment for prostate cancer for 20 years and is unable to spend a day without morphine and Anne is partially blind and almost totally deaf.

What a coincidence. I just had mine out. There are consequences, and full recovery of function will take a while, but no body wanted to kill me, and no body wanted to delay proper treatment for decades.

They decided that life in a care home was not an option because of their fear they would end up bedridden without the strength to insist on euthanasia.

They are also afraid that a good retirement home would cost more than their combined pensions and that they would have to dig into their savings to afford it.

This boggles the mind. They're afraid of running through their savings, so they're going to off themselves?????

31 posted on 09/27/2014 2:43:36 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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Identified only by their first names, Francis, 89, and Anne, 86, they have the support of their three adult children who say they would be unable to care for either parent if they became widowed.

I wonder what their net worth is........

33 posted on 09/27/2014 2:51:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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We want to go together because we both fear of the future,’ said Francis. ‘It’s as simple as this: we are afraid of what lies ahead.

This is why despair is a great sin. It is, in sum, saying there are fearful things out of God's control.

34 posted on 09/27/2014 2:51:58 PM PDT by PGR88
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They planned to commit suicide on February 3 next year, their 64th wedding anniversary

At the age of 89 and 86 with their infirmities and having spent the last 64 years together, if that is their personal wish, then why not make that occasion a festive one for both of them and let them pass on together in peace but in a more humane way than what they have chosen?

I can't imagine anything worse at that age than to suffer the loss of my 64 year companion and live my remaining days alone..........

36 posted on 09/27/2014 2:56:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't harsh my buzz homie......)
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Idiots.


39 posted on 09/27/2014 3:01:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (He sounds good.Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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“we both fear of the future”

One of the consequences of the secularism that reigns in Belgium and so many other places is that without faith we can be overwhelmed by fear, thinking we’re all alone. The couple also are probably afraid of how cold their Post-Christian, utilitarian society is. Euthanasia is the logical outgrowth of abortion. The intelligentsia talk about how they evolve into higher beings without faith, but when they defend abortion and the like, all you notice is a bunch of FEARFUL what ifs.


47 posted on 09/27/2014 3:47:22 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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they have the support of their three adult children who say they would be unable to care for either parent if they became widowed.

wonder how much that knowledge had to do with their decision?

How wonderful to raise three kids - only to be told - shove off as soon as you need help...

"Well, our kids won't be there to help whichever one of us is left behind. They're not willing to help us live but willing to see us die. What's to live for?" -

48 posted on 09/27/2014 3:50:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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If you cannot run a marathon in less than 6 hours, run a mile in less than 7 minutes, bench press your body weight and touch your toes with your knees locked, you are wasting oxygen. Thanks for asking and I cannot do any of the above. Once upon a time, they were all easy. Now they’re not and only social norms and conventions force me to be a waster of oxygen !


57 posted on 09/27/2014 7:05:48 PM PDT by jlindseyx1942 (Namaste)
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Ah, that Culture of Death again, where people become objects.


59 posted on 09/28/2014 4:49:25 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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This couple must have had a pretty good life together as they do not want to be with out each other.

They obviously was not afraid to live but now that it is about over they are not afraid to die, I say may God bless them.


69 posted on 09/28/2014 3:48:30 PM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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