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To: daniel1212; CynicalBear; Elsie; boatbums; NYer; narses

You can call this “polemic” for all you want, but the sola scriptura adherents are thankfully a fast-disappearing fringe group confined mostly to North America and scorned even by eminent Protestant theologians. Playing street theologian won’t do. This is the stuff for the Billy Grahams, Joel Osteens, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Jim Jones, David Koresh-type congregations.

Petrine authority is now accepted not only by the long line of Catholic intellectuals, historical and ancient language scholars, theologians, and major university departments across the world but also, as you have been repeatedly reminded on this thread, by a number of illustrious Episcopalian (e.g. Henry Newman) and Protestant theologians who have converted to Catholicism including the President of the National Evangelical Theological Society (Francis Beckwith) to say nothing of the saints or martyrs.

We have been debating on this thread for quite some time and we now know why its next to impossible to get through to this crowd whose best arguments is to embrace a lazy form Christianity sans any need for belief in the Eucharist, the Mass, the Sacraments, etc. Theirs is a “Church” with 35,000 denominations and where each corner street Foursquare congregation stylized as First this or First that, or Reformed this or that or First AME or First ABC, or First XYZ are all valid “expressions” of the Word of God. They have in common with the pastors of the “gay-marriage” congregations their denial of Petrine authority. They fail to see how inherently contradictory and absurd such a proposition of multiple interpretations are. Sadly, these folks can only be viewed as Oprah-type students of the Word of God. Let’s pray and hope they will do some serious reading.


882 posted on 09/29/2014 1:18:30 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish; Elsie; boatbums; NYer; narses; daniel1212
And Still no infallible source showing the apostles taught the assumption of Mary.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

884 posted on 09/29/2014 1:28:54 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Steelfish

Name one such group that denies sola scripture. I have been to many Protestant churches over the years and not a one had that opinion.


885 posted on 09/29/2014 1:29:16 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Steelfish
You can call this “polemic” for all you want,

Actually it more of the same propaganda substituting for a polemic. For all your reliance upon historical decent = present authenticity and men of letters, professing themselves wise but who became fools for Rome, this is simply not how the church began,

while those who hold most strongly to the supremacy of Scripture are far more unified in most basic beliefs than the overall fruit of those whom Rome counts and treats as members in life and in death. Which is were it counts, and what we do constitutes the evidence of what we really believe.

886 posted on 09/29/2014 1:48:54 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Steelfish
You can call this “polemic” for all you want, but the sola scriptura adherents are thankfully a fast-disappearing fringe group confined mostly to North America and scorned even by eminent Protestant theologians.

I think you might be right.

Hardly ANYONE knows what the Scriptures say these days.


Luke 18:8b
... when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

892 posted on 09/29/2014 2:21:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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...when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

...find Rosary beads
...find Holy water
...find His flesh in a wafer
...find His mother High and Lifted up
...find His image still on a cross
...find millions of dollars spent on fancy clothes, buildings and other things
...find His word subjugated to BEING voted upon as to what it really MEANS
...find various body parts of saints carried thru the streets of the world

894 posted on 09/29/2014 2:25:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Steelfish; daniel1212; CynicalBear; Elsie; boatbums; NYer; narses

>> “You can call this “polemic” for all you want, but the sola scriptura adherents are thankfully a fast-disappearing fringe group...” <<

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This was prophesied by Paul in his letters to the Thessalonians. He called it a “falling away.”
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No surprise that a catholic would be encouraged by such.
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899 posted on 09/29/2014 2:52:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Steelfish
You can call this “polemic” for all you want, but the sola scriptura adherents are thankfully a fast-disappearing fringe group confined mostly to North America and scorned even by eminent Protestant theologians.

2Th_2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Looks like we're right on schedule then...

But it's not as though people are turning away from Jesus...It's attrition...Generations coming up are turned away from the truth by adherents of Mary worship, Izlamism, higher education which tries to prove that the word of God is old fashioned...

The key is to pick up a bible and see which religions or denominations stick the closest to the words of God...There are getting to be less and less by the day...

Mat_7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

969 posted on 09/29/2014 5:24:05 PM PDT by Iscool
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