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To: CynicalBear
Please show an infallible source that shows that the traditions taught by the Catholic Church are the same as traditions the apostles were talking about.

"Hold fast to the traditions we have handed on to you, either by word of mouth or by letter." --St. Paul

Paul divides Sacred Tradition into Oral Tradition and Written Tradition (Scripture).

By definition, Oral Tradition isn't written down.

The Sacred Oral Tradition of the Church is the infallible authority.

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On occasion, Sacred Tradition is formally declared and defined by the Church. This usually happens when it is challenged by a heretic.

Such was the case with the doctrine of the Trinity, which was formally defined in response to the spread of the Arian heresy.

Similarly, although the canon of Scripture had been defined by several local Church Councils in the fourth century, the Traditional canon of Scripture wasn't universally, formally defined until Trent, in response to Luther's removal of several books from the canon.

1,689 posted on 10/05/2014 2:21:35 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
On occasion, Sacred Tradition is formally declared and defined by the Church. This usually happens when it is challenged by a heretic.

Well that's not what the scripture says at all...Your claim here has nothing to do with scripture...

"Hold fast to the traditions we have handed on to you, either by word of mouth or by letter."

Paul never said you or anyone could create traditions in the future...He said the traditions that HE handed to YOU...

Paul did not say the ability to invent traditions would be given to anyone...

So again, your religion is perverting scripture to try to prove something that is unbiblical...

Fortunately a lot of former Catholics have wised up...But, there's still a bunch of you left...

1,690 posted on 10/05/2014 2:28:29 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
>>By definition, Oral Tradition isn't written down.<<

So prove it's the same "traditions" the apostles were talking about.

>>The Sacred Oral Tradition of the Church is the infallible authority.<<

Please show the scripture that says the "church" would be infallible.

Paul commended us to God and His word, not to some successor.

Acts 20:32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

1,694 posted on 10/05/2014 2:43:10 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
By definition, Oral Tradition isn't written down.

Oh?

I'd say that most here have played the party game that involves a statement whispered in the first person's ear, and then passed around the circle of players and then the last one will say the message out loud that they received.

1,707 posted on 10/06/2014 3:37:22 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
The Sacred Oral Tradition of the Church is the infallible authority.

Mary is dead.

1,708 posted on 10/06/2014 3:37:53 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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